Have you ever tried to make sense of a frustrating football loss and ended up debating whether a stat should even count? Well, welcome to another episode of Sutton United Talk Time on Podcast - where we break down the highs, the lows, and everything in between. This time, we’re joined by Joe as we dissect Sutton United’s 0-2 defeat to Spennymoor Town and look ahead to the Solihull Moors fixture.
Mike Dowling
00:29 - 00:50
Hello and welcome to another episode of Sutton United Talk Time on podcast. It's the Sutton podcast in association with Lucky Star Gin. I'm your host Mike and with me today we have Joe. We have just had a brilliant discussion of hair but it's probably just as well it wasn't recorded because it wasn't that brilliant. But it may have been highlighted this this conversation,
Joe
00:50 - 00:50
we'll see,
Mike Dowling
00:51 - 01:21
we're going to be discussing the tune or loss to spending more and we're going to look forward to a Tuesday night at Solihull Moors, or some people are going to look forward to it. Love hearing from you join the conversation, stay connected, give us your like, shares, retweets, chats, comments, all the rest of it. Make the ego boost. Thank you very much. Joe, flying solo again for me, another game, we've got to spread this out a bit, but how have you been? You're doing another job yesterday, or a repeat job?
Joe
01:22 - 01:55
I was on a repeat job, I was on the Tannoy, the public announcement system, which was a privilege as always, getting a few song requests for before the match, which is quite, it's a new thing, but you know, that's quite fun, and then I'd like, if for anyone, when I announced the goals, I took a video of myself doing them. And then I have the video of me announcing Davies' one against Eastleigh when I last did it. And the difference is, like, my energy. It's just, goal, number nine, to study more town, Glenn Taylor. It is so different.
Joe
01:55 - 02:30
I look, I don't know, you can tell I'm a fan because there is no gusto about it anyway. It's like, oh my God, how have we, like, the second one in particular, it's like, oh God, that's just shocking. So it's good. I've been part of the media team now for, which is almost about nine months, eight months, nine months, which is crazy. And I was just talking to different people yesterday and always comes back to the podcast, doesn't it, Mike? That's where the link began. So, you know, always here to come back and I love showing up every week.
Joe
02:30 - 02:32
So yeah, thank you for having me on.
Mike Dowling
02:32 - 03:15
Perfect. Well, we have got a knowing me knowing question. Knowing me knowing you question. Some people would edit that out, but no, we need the minutes. We can do the jingle now. You had the question. Not sure what that special effects was, I just bashed the camera. How do you cope with a loss? Do you, does it ruin the weekend? Does it stick with you? Does the cat have to run and hide? How do you cope with a loss?
Joe
03:17 - 03:49
This is going to be, now I'll answer, it's going to be an annoying answer. It depends on the loss. If we've played well, and we just got outplayed by a better team, and we threw what we could at it, and we had some good moments, then you know what? I'm like, yeah, it might put me in a bit of a mood for an hour or two, but then I'll be like, we'll get back on it. If we're shocking and we provide no fight whatsoever, and it's a really depressing display, akin to recent events. then it will make me slightly more unhappy.
Joe
03:49 - 04:28
But it's not like I'm in a mood. I become a bit more sarcastic, like a bit more, oh, everything's futile. I mean, just give up now. Get ready for next season. It's all good. So that's kind of the way I go for it. Also, when we lose valiantly, I'm much more inclined to see the positives rather than the loss. And I think also, this is very niche, but again, we need the minutes. I always get a drink after the game. Not an alcoholic drink, I'm under 18. A soft drink. And my choice of drink will depend on the result.
Joe
04:28 - 05:04
If it's a win, it will always be a Rubicon Mango or a Fanta Fruit Zwift. Because they're quite peppy drinks, quite fizzy, quite exuberant flavors. If we narrowly lose, it will normally be a Sprite. I don't know why, but I always seem to get Sprite. Like there are, I don't know what the last one was, but like, oh, Ed's fleet in the trophy. We won it, but it was not a good game for us. And we only just snuck it. And I was like, a Sprite feels right. That rhymes, put that in a tagline. And then yesterday I needed some forced energy and something to like artificially pump me up.
Joe
05:04 - 05:24
So I got a Lucas Aid sport. which, you know, is actually going to give me an energy boost when I'm really tired and there's not much to make me smile. So, you know, I've just elongated a segment into a two-minute talk about what drinks make me suit a loss, but, you know, You started listening, so this is what you signed up for.
Mike Dowling
05:24 - 05:36
This is on you. This is on you for listening. Yeah, people have often wondered and worried about the state of my mind, but thanks Joe, because they're now going to be terrified about the state of your mind, so yay! They
Joe
05:36 - 05:42
already were, Mike! I mean, I think my numerous appearances over the podcast have suggested that I
Joe
05:42 - 05:43
am
Joe
05:43 - 05:43
not your typical 17 year old.
Mike Dowling
05:48 - 06:01
Give us how you cope with a loss at Sutton Podcast on social media, let us know. I'm not sure there's enough characters on most social medias that you can go into that level of detail, but I feel free.
Joe
06:01 - 06:22
Just if anyone really wants to answer the question, just go to the comments of we exit the FA trophy, and that's a lot of people's feelings, or just go to the Amber Planet. I mean, you get the whole spectrum on both of them. So, you know, if anyone really wants to answer that question, come back to Mike and we'll do a deep dive into why people feel the way they do about certain people.
Mike Dowling
06:23 - 06:23
Yes,
Joe
06:23 - 06:24
I should do
Mike Dowling
06:24 - 07:01
it live and we can ring in now. All right, that'd be wonderful. I mean, you mentioned we tried to find positives, so I did find a positive, and the positive was at least we're not going to have to spend a fortune on tickets to Wembley, so yay! We are in the semifinals of the very prestigious National League Cup that everyone is looking forward to. Joking aside, I did speak to someone after the game yesterday, and they kind of acknowledged that people don't love it, but it's a tournament that might be here to stay, and we have a chance of being the first ever winners,
Joe
07:02 - 07:02
and who
Mike Dowling
07:02 - 07:42
knows what happens to this tournament in the future. It might actually become a really fans favorite somewhere down the line, and it will always be the first to win it. Yeah, still not 100% sure on it, but we're in the semifinals. We've got to take it seriously. So yesterday, lineup was quite definitely limited on what we could choose because there were injuries and suspensions. I did have, I was in the hospitality and I did a little interview with Tyler and said, oh, why aren't you playing? I said, oh, I've got two yellow cards. So I was like, Terrible example for our captain, isn't it?
Mike Dowling
07:42 - 08:03
People started booing him. I was like, yeah, yeah, react to my one. But what did you feel about the lineup and what were your expectations before the game? I kind of know the general expectation is they're in a division below us, therefore we're going to win, is what most people thought.
Joe
08:04 - 08:24
Yeah, but also they're really not a bad team. They've been kicking at the stop of Van Aram and North for so many years and just have got unlucky in so many occasions. And they've got some very good, definitely National League quality players in them. So I didn't think it would be an easy game. And I don't think, you know, coming down that far, very, very good away support and have got to the depths of the FA Trophy before.
Joe
08:26 - 08:26
I
Joe
08:26 - 09:03
didn't think it would be, some people thought it might be a bit of a slam dunk, I really wasn't expecting that type of game, but I didn't expect it to be so much the other way. The lineup, yeah, you're right, I thought maybe Boateng might start, because he's really good in cup competitions and actually comes alive. So yeah, apart from that, it was good to see Nader's back in the team, you know, he's been injured on and off and because Simpa's kind of moving forward a little bit in that role and so is Wadham and, you know, he's been rejigging it because Will's in such good goal-scoring form.
Joe
09:03 - 09:43
He hasn't really been in the team that consistently over the last month and a bit, so it was nice seeing him on the team sheet. But yeah, you know, five subs on a bench isn't what you want. And no defensive options. I mean, it was an entirely attacking bench apart from Matt Kirby, who I don't really see putting a shift in at centre-back. Yeah, I wasn't unhappy. Exactly, don't be a tear-dryer. I might have got something yesterday. No, I was happy with the team. I won't lie, I was shocked when I saw Ryan Jackson at right centre-back.
Joe
09:43 - 10:20
You know, I think Jaco's very good. I think he's an excellent link-up with Coley. However, when Coley's really, let's be honest, he's not playing in his natural position as right wing back, and then Jackson playing in his natural position at right centre back, that was a weakness throughout the game because Jaco wanted to advance forward, which then left Ransom a little bit exposed, and also the fact Ransom in the middle of that linchpin, like back three, you had Muller and Jackson, both very aggressive players, wanting to come forward with the ball, but they couldn't do that because otherwise it would be 1v1, a very, very potent spending more front line.
Joe
10:20 - 11:03
So I was a little bit concerned just because, you know, we also haven't really, well we have, but we've kind of adjusted this formation going back to the three back with a 3-4-2-1. It, you know, It has been fruitful, but there are other games where it's really not been the best for us. And I feel like today was the first day where I really felt we missed Jeremy Sibby. Yeah, not, I think in an ideal world, I'd have him at right wing back and Coley pushed forward. And then I don't know how you'd rearrange it or something, but it, I know it just, it felt like, Josh was inhibited by the fact that he hadn't played for a long time.
Joe
11:03 - 11:33
And realistically, Josh is at his best when he's one-on-one and running and making those runs in behind. And he really couldn't do that today or yesterday. And it was, yeah, it was, that was my area of concern. It kind of proved to be in the match itself. It's not like there were many glaring mistakes, like the whole team pretty much bar one or two were off it, but they, you know, it felt that bit of the pitch felt too makeshift and we got exposed.
Mike Dowling
11:34 - 11:49
Yes, funny you use the expression off it because I kind of, maybe it's the amber glasses, I didn't think anyone was off it but I didn't think everyone was on it. I thought everyone was kind of there in the middle.
Joe
11:51 - 12:34
That's what I mean. Off it compared to Spennymoor. Spennymoor were on it, like aggressive. We felt very much in neutral and then we couldn't get into second or third. I agree, I don't think anyone was off. I think people made mistakes, but in comparison we looked off the pace. But it wasn't like there was anyone in that game who was like, oh my gosh, he had a nightmare. It was we didn't play well as a team. We looked like a team of individuals who didn't know how to get from back to front, whereas they looked very They showed why they're a good Vanarama North side, and it really showed why the gap between those divisions is getting smaller and smaller.
Joe
12:34 - 13:13
Like, the amount of players we signed from them, well, like, I don't know, Siju, Edwino, the amount of players we signed from their divisions and have proven themselves in their divisions, even Will, to an extent, and have done well for us this season shows that, you know, when teams come up next season, unless we do a miracle title draws or things go pear-shaped and somehow we would go down, I expect a mid-table finish, we can't discount them. You've got some extremely good teams in those divisions below and they are chomping at the bit to prove themselves and I think we've underestimated that a few times this year and I think yesterday was another example.
Mike Dowling
13:14 - 13:25
Yeah, I mean, it's difficult. You always say, right, you're playing team, ignore the league table and all this kind of thing. But you're going to look at it, you're going to look and go, Oh, well, you know what, we're going to be much better than them. So
Joe
13:25 - 13:25
it's
Mike Dowling
13:25 - 14:03
always in the back of your mind. But Although we lost 2-0, I was watching back the highlights, and actually that game could have ended 3-3 or anything in between, because there were some great saves by their keeper. There was another one, I think it was from Josh, which was just completely off the line. I mean, it was in. And their guy somehow managed to just clear it off the line. And their keeper made, I think, two or three good saves. And obviously, Jack had another one, a point-blank save as well. So it could have almost been anything from 0-0 up to 3-3, 0-2.
Mike Dowling
14:04 - 14:36
The first goal I'm going to take full responsibility for because I had my coat on and I was like it's a bit warm. I took the coat off, tucking it onto the back of the stand and I said to someone as I was doing it, if we start getting in trouble I have to put that back on. Turned around and I scored. Put my coat back on. If you watch the highlights, you will be able to see me putting my coat back on after they've scored. But yeah, we had some, we had some chances. We didn't take them, which is story of our season, really.
Mike Dowling
14:36 - 15:10
I mean, there was Will ahead of Will, their keeper saved it full stretch. Yeah, excellent save. So it's not, yeah, the highlight is we lost 2-0, but it's not as bad as it seems. Do you think, although we've kind of already said what we think it was, but do we think that it was the midfield we lost it on, or do you think it was that defensive, not any individual, but it was just the whole makeshift side of it, is that basically was unsettling the whole team?
Joe
15:16 - 15:46
It's, I can't, I don't even think I can pinpoint it on defence or midfield. I think it's just the, and this worries me going into the next set of games, because we have Tuesday, Saturday for like next two, three weeks, just to rearrange games or something. They look like they had an extra man. in the sense that it just felt like whenever they were coming forward or whether they were linking up and playing out the back or doing what they wanted to do, it felt like there was an extra option. It always felt like we were on the ball.
Joe
15:47 - 16:27
We were really, well, it was negative football. We were very sideways passing and, you know, it was very clear that Steve and John were very unhappy without, you know, watching from the main stand. It was clear. It just, we weren't getting ourselves in the right positions and it Yeah, I really don't know where to pinpoint it because I think I have to put it down to them being very, very good and them sticking to a game plan which they had studied very, very well. with a combination of, we didn't know how to counter that. And, you know, we have the passing lanes, the ball forward from the wing back into the winger to come forward.
Joe
16:28 - 16:57
Nadders and Davies link it up. You never saw that yesterday. It was no, none of those rules, but the chances came from the wing backs. And those two players who play off the shoulder of Will were, if I'm honest, completely anonymous throughout the game. So, which was Simpa and Nadders. pretty much anonymous in that first half. It was mainly Josh and he's playing at left wing back.
Mike Dowling
16:59 - 17:01
Edwina.
Joe
17:01 - 17:30
Yeah, Vaz, yeah. Vaz, Vaz and Coley in particular, I just remember several occasions where they just get boxed in and they'd have to go back to Jackson. Jackson would be under pressure because it's not his natural position and then Ransom, who's an excellent defender and he made some good blocks, one or two, but again is an ugly natural pass for the ball and Hayden Muller, who out of the three is probably the most suited, but then is also playing on the left of the back three and he's never played there. He's normally a right-sided centre-back or just you know, that's where he normally plays.
Joe
17:31 - 18:17
So, and then it went back to Jack Sims. We punted upwards. They'd win the aerial. And I think the other thing I will say is they were so good on their second balls, especially in that first half. They won every knockdown without fail. And I think it was about the 38th minute. And, you know, I'm doing the PR. I'm keeping most of my focus on the game, but there's also parts of me which is like, you know, am I, you know, looking at substitutions, just match flow, all this, just making sure I've got everything. And I texted my mum and I looked up, and I think it was Eduino who got into a really good position, and behind him he had Alex Willard, Barbrook, the three defenders, and Simpa, who had dropped back behind him.
Joe
18:17 - 18:42
And the only ball forward he had was Nadas, who was on the complete other side, marked by a defender, and Davies, who was in between two defenders. And all he tried to do was hit it towards Davies. It went over everyone and went out for a goal kick. And Steve, I don't think he threw anything, but he just flung his arm in the air. And I think he shouted something. I don't know what he shouted. But I was like, that is the most stagnant piece of football I've seen in a long time. Because there were no options for him.
Joe
18:42 - 19:14
And I felt bad from in that situation because he'd worked really hard he got like two past two players he just looked up and there was no one there so um I think it it's partly they they were very good but also we didn't do ourselves any favors because we didn't figure out it was almost like we were relying on them to not do their job in order for us to do our job we didn't try and think how right how do we solve this and we did in the second half to an extent early on you know I'm sure you'll come on to it, but yeah, you know what I
Mike Dowling
19:14 - 20:07
mean? Dylan, very, very lively, was basically told, get past your man, beat your man. And he did. He did. But the situation that you've just described was still happening. He's beating his man, he's getting his cross in. And there's not always someone in there to do it for nothing. I think, was it Steve who said we're huffing and puffing? yeah I think it might be him in the interview huffing and puffing which kind of again sums the game up um so yeah we should have just done okay we lost it was huff and puff and uh they were better than us on the day see you later um but how excited you see Dylan's obviously He's had that injury, he's basically missed a load of the season, but he seems to be sort of coming on now and trying to make that difference, or just trying and making a bit of a difference.
Mike Dowling
20:07 - 20:12
How excited are you to see him for sort of running in the season? I mean, some of it's a bit tailing out now, but...
Joe
20:13 - 20:49
Yeah, no, no, I'm really excited. He was really good yesterday and he was he almost took it upon himself to make things happen and still it wasn't happening in the box for him and you know he might put some good balls in and there were chances here and there and cleared it off the line like things were happening and it was really good football and it then got to the end but he'd run for about half an hour and then there were points where he'd get the ball and he just tried to catch too heavy and you can tell he just like you could tell he was trying to like drag the game on to scruff of the neck and make it happen himself and you could tell that by about 10 minutes before the end because he was just a bit like there was a bit of a spark that went out in the way he was playing.
Joe
20:51 - 21:25
But I'm really excited for him. I remember seeing him pre-season. He looked excellent. Tamworth, even before the injury, looked lively. He was the best player on the pitch before, or him and Hayden Muller were the best players on the pitch before he went down. That was only in the 20th minute. And Hayden Muller's missed the last portion injured as well. Him in particular, I'm looking forward to, I think he's got two, maybe three year contract. I think he's here till 2026. I read something, I don't want to say that 100%, but I've read something that he is.
Joe
21:27 - 21:38
And yeah, I really think that that will be an excellent, not an acquisition, but it's almost like having a new,
Speaker 4
21:39 - 21:39
A
Joe
21:39 - 22:16
new signing, kind of. Because I do think that Josh is excellent, but I think Dylan can play that wing-back role slightly better. Coley is better in the advanced position, he's better. We saw it in the start of the season, he's an excellent finisher of the ball and he's been injured. when we're basically back to full-strength squad now, barring Arnie and Harris, and I really do miss Jadon Harris. I never realised, we really do miss him and I hope hopefully he's back for the start for the pre-season next season, hopefully he's going to be back for the season.
Joe
22:17 - 22:54
But yeah, I was happy for Dylan because he's had a rough time of it and he, you know, there's a reason he started that first game at Tamworth because he impressed Steve and Steve was gutted in that interview so yeah I felt like yesterday everyone was like oh yeah that's why, that's exactly what I was saying, that's what everyone said he could do. He reminded me a little bit of Dion Pereira in that game against Horsham, where in the FA Cup, where he just looked like he could beat anyone and we now know what he can do at Dagenham, you know, they're having a rubbish season now, but he's still shining in a really poor team now.
Joe
22:55 - 23:50
And, you know, obviously things didn't go great in the following weeks after that and he didn't really fit into what Steve wanted to do, but he didn't get in the team under Matt and then came and had an amazing game and a brilliant cameo and, you know, took his chance. things didn't go great after that. I think it's a similar case. We just got to give Dylan the time to show what he can do because there's a player in there who I genuinely think could be a massive asset, especially not coming off the bench, but you know, I don't want to limit him to a bench role, but you know, against teams tiring, fixed congestion towards the end of the season, including ourselves, let's say comes on 50th minute, most games, that's a real problem for defenders, especially big lumbering National League defenders who have been struggling against physical players like Nades and Davis and Simpa and next season Harris, then when he comes on, you've got someone who looks like can beat you every time and is ridiculously quick.
Joe
23:50 - 24:07
And that is the, and he can finish as well. I've seen him finish. So hopefully that we can unlock that. But the problem is, does he get the game time? Does he get the spot? Does the tactics fit him? Because there are various points of season where you don't see him fitting into a system because of the way we use wide players.
Mike Dowling
24:09 - 24:20
Yeah, but then you never know when he's got everyone back together and he's got his full fit, full squad, which is always a dream. He may even just go, well, we're gonna go back to what I wanted to do at the start.
Joe
24:21 - 24:21
We'll
Mike Dowling
24:21 - 24:44
see. His interview, I did panic a little bit, because I thought this isn't like him at all, where he said some of the decisions were awful, and I thought, I don't remember the ref making bad decisions, what's he on about? I didn't realise he was talking about the players' decisions and I was like, oh, that's... Okay, I get what you're saying there, but I did think, whoa! The
Joe
24:45 - 24:46
ref went bad.
Mike Dowling
24:47 - 25:21
Yeah, it's like we said, it wasn't... particularly off it, it was not on it, which is what we kind of said earlier. Set pieces, there's been a bit of sort of chitchat about set pieces. Do we have a set piece coach? I know we like to keep the ball moving and I sort of have said, oh yeah, when does the set piece stop being a set piece? Because sometimes we pass the ball around and it goes six, seven passes and then we do something with it. But Do you miss the days of lining up for a nice free kick, everyone sort of lining up to get their head on it?
Mike Dowling
25:21 - 25:30
Because they didn't do much from set pieces either yesterday, which is a surprise. But do you miss those days?
Joe
25:32 - 25:46
At the grand old age of 17, and listening those days, you know what I really do? You know, I don't know how many goals you score from set pieces a season, but it must be below five or something. You know, we don't need five. That's what I mean
Mike Dowling
25:46 - 26:01
though. It's when, if it's a corner, and then it comes back out, and it even goes all the way back to Jack, but if we keep the ball and we make, let's say, 30-odd passes, does that still count as a goal from a set piece? I don't know.
Joe
26:02 - 26:21
No. Well, yeah, but... That's a push. That's a push for the stat. No, surely not. It has to come from, like, let's say, five passes. Like, the short corner, yeah, fine. But not ball in, ball out, clear the way, back out. I mean...
Mike Dowling
26:21 - 26:24
No, not clear the way. I'm talking about the ball never leaving our possession.
Joe
26:26 - 26:28
Nah, I'm not having it.
Mike Dowling
26:28 - 26:29
You're not having it,
Joe
26:29 - 27:06
alright. Yeah, set-piece coach, I think, is a, you know, ridiculous idea, personally. Like, a National League side having a set-piece coach, I mean, like, there are some teams in the pro, I don't think have set-piece coaches. I don't think it's about... I think we need to stick to one and commit to it. Get very good at the way we're going to set up, with set pieces. But right now, it's a mix of get the ball in, look for the big players, which never seems to really come to fruition. And it's only ever really Will, who gets on the end of it.
Joe
27:06 - 27:43
I mean, we had Kirky scored from a corner, but it was a flick on and it didn't, that was very rare. So, or we go short, we play it and we put the ball in. But again, that hasn't really yielded much either. Whether it's just, you know, it felt like in League 2 we had a pretty good system. Look for Joe, look for Omar, look for... Either Omar, Ben, Louis, you had any... Kobe wrote, I just remember the amount of headers he scored. We had a system, we don't have those massively tall players anymore.
Mike Dowling
27:44 - 27:49
Exactly, we get the personnel and the personnel we have now is more set up to pass that ball around.
Joe
27:50 - 27:50
That's true,
Mike Dowling
27:51 - 27:56
yeah. Yeah, it's just one of those points I'm like, oh, I don't
Joe
27:56 - 28:35
know. Delivery. Delivery could be better. That's the one thing I would say. There are a number of set pieces and balls in yesterday which went over everyone. Which, you know, I get and if we are going to put it in, I think either we should be putting it near post because we've got athletic, agile youngsters who can run at the ball and try and flick it on, or we should be aiming just for the penalty spot and trying to cause chaos in the area. Because, you know, if it does get cleared away, we should be looking at the Simpas, the, I don't know, Jack Wallings of this world on the edge of the box who can hit a ball to come up on the rebound.
Joe
28:35 - 28:50
But right now, if the ball gets cleared away, Our resort is back to Tyler, back to Hayden, back to Harry, back to whoever's there, and then we'll go up and set up again and then the momentum's lost. So, you know, that's the thing we should fix, in my opinion.
Mike Dowling
28:51 - 29:20
Um, so with everything, I mean, I've, I've said in the past to some of the staff that, um, I can tell you almost what the fans are going to be saying based just solely on the result, because it's always the same. We lost. Um, but even I got caught by surprise by people saying this was the worst performance they've seen. Um, some said worst performance this season. Some were worst performance ever. Um, it was like, okay,
Joe
29:20 - 29:20
it was
Mike Dowling
29:20 - 29:30
flat. we didn't do very well but is this your first day because definitely we've seen worse this season we've seen worse this
Joe
29:31 - 29:31
yeah
Mike Dowling
29:32 - 29:38
exactly um then there was talk again some people are we're only this many points above the relegation spot
Joe
29:38 - 29:44
oh this is i've actually had enough this is rubbish it's such a tight league
Mike Dowling
29:46 - 29:53
You know what? We may be that many points above it, but there's so many teams that have to get those points as well.
Joe
29:54 - 30:18
And we've got games in hand. You know, I'm not saying they're easy games in hand. I mean, Fowler away, Solihull away, Forest Green away aren't easy games. But you look at those teams. Solihull can't buy a win to save them lives. Fowler in the relegation battle and Forest Green are losing touch with the title race. On a good day with a good team, that's nine points. And then what you're saying, oh, you're saying Morrison for manager of the month. Just pick a mood and stick to it. I don't, I don't, I don't understand it. There are some people who will be like Morrison out, Morrison out.
Joe
30:19 - 30:43
And you know what, at that point, if you keep saying that, I can't even disagree with you. You've stuck to your corner. You've put yourself in that position. If that's what you believe, fair enough. I'm not going to, you know, I'll disagree with you. I don't agree at all, but you know, I'm not going to do that. It's the people who go like, excellent, excellent. 4-3 against Gaineshead. We put in a spirit of performance yesterday. Worst performance of your lives. Have you seen Boston? Have you seen Dagenham? Have you seen these games this season where we genuinely have looked there were so many individual mistakes.
Joe
30:43 - 31:15
We got outplayed yesterday and we got tactically beaten, but then we scored three goals mid-week to a team and we got outdone by a worldie and there were some brilliant individual performances. We've got a striker for the first time in how many years? In the title-winning season, but we've got a striker who's in the Golden Boo race. He's not going to win it, obviously, but he's in the top five. Unless Will Davis scores four at Solihull. But I mean, you know, we've been saying 20 goals he's a striker and still I don't know why he's not getting plaudits.
Joe
31:15 - 31:43
We get more plaudits. Will Davis gets more plaudits. Apart from, you know, the whole Gucci bag York thing. He has more products for his actual goal scoring from other fans and other content creators than our actual fans. We have got a 20-goal-a-season striker. You've all been saying we need a 20-goal-a-season striker. Enjoy him while he's here, because if we don't go up, I can guarantee you another South London club, probably Bromley, probably Wimbledon, probably Gillingham, they'll be sniffing around thinking, look, he's a striker, he's proven himself, let's have a go in late league two next year.
Joe
31:43 - 32:00
And that's what's going to be happening. And if you're just having a, you know, it's just the nature of football, we lose games, not everyone has, not every single one has to be a complete meltdown. And that's what really annoys me. So I was passionate, but I didn't, you know, I just, I really don't understand it.
Mike Dowling
32:00 - 32:09
Well, I didn't hear it, because where I was, but there were. Oh, yes. No, I was there. For Steve to resign.
Joe
32:11 - 32:14
Just resign? Why would he resign?
Joe
32:14 - 32:28
He's built a squad from scratch that went down from League 2 that he almost saved. He couldn't quite save it in time, but we were miles adrift at Christmas. He's built a squad. He's remodelled the club on the way we play football. We're a very different club to where we were a year ago. Why would he resign?
Mike Dowling
32:30 - 32:47
No, I don't think so. Basically, and he knows this, people are like, basically he's not the chit-chatty man who comes into the bar to have a good drink with fans all night. This isn't me.
Joe
32:48 - 32:54
I know, I know. It's only because you're the only one here and then Sash comes down to get you as a representative for the people.
Joe
32:55 - 32:56
Yeah,
Mike Dowling
32:56 - 33:04
yeah, that's it. I mean, I don't think everyone realizes how far away he lives, and... He lives
Joe
33:04 - 33:05
in Northampton, doesn't he?
Mike Dowling
33:06 - 33:21
Yeah, he lives miles away. I have said, yeah, I finish work at, let's say, five o'clock. Do I then want to go and hang around with the people, with my customers, basically, for the next two hours?
Joe
33:22 - 33:41
He was there yesterday. Well, I don't think he was in the bar yesterday, but I saw him. Yeah. He was there and he was animated when I walked past. And also, you finish work at five o'clock, let's say you've had a terrible day where you've been shouted at by your boss and a bunch of people have told you you're useless. Yeah, let's go and say hello to all of them and
Joe
33:41 - 33:44
smile and put on a wonderful day. And also,
Joe
33:45 - 34:21
Josh Coley got individual abuse from fans and I was there next to him when he was complaining to Stuart about it. And, you know, what's one 17-year-old who works for the club is going to do? I don't know. But just individual is so unnecessary. You know, I'm not saying individual. Josh had a decent performance yesterday, did what he could, as did the team. Yeah, get annoyed at the team. As Steve said, yeah, get annoyed at me. I'm representative for the team. Don't get annoyed at individual players because that is just unnecessary. And I've never, like, you know, Josh, I've seen Josh around.
Joe
34:21 - 34:32
He's a really lovely, really lovely guy. And I've never seen him that upset and, you know, just felt unnecessary. So just give it, leave it out.
Mike Dowling
34:33 - 34:48
is the personal. It's like, yeah, you can say he's had an awful game, blah, blah, blah. It's the personal. And again, it's so easy to forget that some of these players' friends, family are
Joe
34:48 - 34:49
there. I had a good
Mike Dowling
34:49 - 34:59
chat with Hayden's mum and dad yesterday. We were chitchatting during the game. And it's so difficult. Yes, the players can kind of brush it off and be like, oh, it's part of it. But
Joe
34:59 - 35:00
if the
Mike Dowling
35:00 - 35:04
family and kids are sitting there, and people are hearing it it's like whoa hang on yeah
Joe
35:04 - 35:17
josh josh's partner was there like after he had a go at the steward he was right there and they're humans as well i mean would you like it it's the best what it's the best way i can put it but uh yeah just just just give it up
Mike Dowling
35:17 - 35:43
there is i mean these guys they are they are great i've i've got to know some of them quite well with the the chit chats and stuff but um they can take the banter give them the banter all your life um Like, for example, even young, gorgeous George, who joined us when he was just announced as player of the match, and then he slipped over. I did ask him, are you going to mention that slip in your little interview afterwards? And he was just pissing himself, going, yeah, yeah, it was awful. But they can take it.
Mike Dowling
35:44 - 36:09
But, yeah, getting personal and stuff is, and especially they come off the pitch, hey, I'm going to be happy they've just lost. They're not going to be skipping along going, yeah, you got a point there, mate. And of course, they're going to be a little bit annoyed. But anyway, we're going to finish with yesterday. We're going to jump on to the good, the bad and the funny. I can't remember which barn it
Joe
36:09 - 36:11
is. Could get knowing me, knowing yous again.
Mike Dowling
36:12 - 36:26
Yeah. Oh no, hang on. We've got points of views. I forgot that. This is the new one. I know, I know. I saw it on social media. You'll say what's good and
Speaker 4
36:26 - 36:33
okay On the pitch or not We'll talk about the lot Your thoughts,
Joe
36:33 - 36:39
your views On the latest news It's your voice of use
Mike Dowling
36:43 - 37:14
Right, well, I'm gonna be honest, what I do is when people do it, I copy and paste it into the sheet and I don't really read it. We've kind of done this one. Guys, some, many more players were in the bar yesterday and lots of comments for people about, well, where are our players? Well, the person still says, maybe our players are wary about the reception they're gonna get, especially after a loss. and they read some of the vile comments put to them on social media, or we've just said, shouted at them. And don't blame them for not coming in.
Mike Dowling
37:14 - 37:46
But this is someone who's been sporting for a very long time. More encouraging fan base after after matches would see the players mix more. I think those days are gone. I think we've discussed it before. Different people on the podcast is this is a far more professional group of players. They're young guys. They're not into that kind of culture. You're not going to see the captain sitting in the bar for a few hours after the match chatting to people. But we've just kind of covered it. Do you agree that players are unlikely to come in where they feel like they're not going to be welcome?
Joe
37:47 - 38:33
Yes, completely. I don't have even, you know, a young, much younger fan. Completely contrast the experience. I feel very connected with many people at the club, and even though I'm not a player, not for me. And I know a lot of people in my generation, that's not really for them. So, it isn't what it was. I don't think it's about an encouraging thing, because I think, you know, it's a very polar thing. If we win, yeah, let's be encouraging. If we lose, we don't. I mean, it's as simple as that. So, I've, so many people, I've discussed it, well, people I've discussed it with saying, I don't know why it just doesn't do it, all this, it's a thing from Steve, it's a thing from Steve.
Joe
38:35 - 38:55
I just think it was a nice thing to have, but we've moved on. We are a very, very, we are a different place. It's not going to go back. Let's go and let's make the best of what we've got now, because you've got an excellent group of players who after something, you know, this has been going on all season, I think we just need to just put it to one side and go.
Mike Dowling
38:55 - 39:15
Absolutely. And every one of those players, if you hang around the pitch after the match, they got all their photos for the kids. Not just kids, anyone who wants a photo, actually. Photos, doing the signing of shirts and stuff as well. So they're really kind of involved, but just not going in the park.
Joe
39:16 - 39:43
And anyone who wants to say something to Steve yesterday, really rough interview. You look really, you look hurt, you look disappointed. And he could have just walked straight past, a group of kids with small signing shirts, he wouldn't have signed every single one of them. You're saying he's not, you're saying he's not chatty, saying he's not people, you know, I've had interaction with him, you know, my first day, I did on my PA, came into the office with his cup of tea. And Mr. Jack Daly himself said, Oh, I've got a new PA out. And I was like, yeah, brilliant.
Joe
39:43 - 40:09
I was like, good luck today, mate. Really lovely, didn't have to, no reason to, didn't have to do it yesterday. let's just not vilify someone who, again, you don't really know. So, I mean, you've had interactions with him, I'm sure, Mike, and many different people in the players themselves. They are a lovely bunch, just because they don't do what other people did in the past doesn't make them horrible or does it make them not care? Because they really, I think they do.
Mike Dowling
40:10 - 40:29
The flip side is what gave all those players, and Matt especially, all that sort of length of time is because of the relationship that was built up. And everyone's like, oh, you know what, he's a good bloke, blah, blah, blah. So that's why things turn quickly, although I disagree turning as quickly as they have done.
Joe
40:29 - 40:29
People have
Mike Dowling
40:29 - 40:30
done, yeah.
Joe
40:31 - 40:32
That's it, he's got to go.
Mike Dowling
40:32 - 40:47
That's ridiculous, come on. There was another chat, Andrew McVicar brought this up on Facebook, it was about the food. Now, someone had gone to Tooting & Mitcham
Joe
40:48 - 40:48
and
Mike Dowling
40:48 - 41:28
they've shown their picture of, I'm going to be honest, I I think they've been a little bit over generous with the price, whether I think they might have mistaken what they paid for. But it was a big plate of jerk chicken, plantain and rice. And they said it was six ninety nine. And it did look very nice. And it's like, why can't we do anything like this? A, we possibly could, because I believe this contract's been looked at, but B, would people support it? So I'm very much in favor of having different food vans every week, like we had for a little while in that fan zone.
Mike Dowling
41:28 - 41:33
Just so people can try different things, but I'm just worried that people will get it and go, oh, I don't fancy
Joe
41:33 - 41:33
that, and just
Mike Dowling
41:33 - 41:49
want to stick to their burger and chips. So all these new things will just fizzle out, because why would the business come into us if they're not making their money back? But what do you think? I know you've got fairly strong opinions about the food and especially the burger at Brentford. Oh,
Joe
41:49 - 41:51
I forgot
Joe
41:51 - 42:25
I'm a burger at Brentford. That's to make me happy. No, I mean, I'm a burger and chips merchant. Burgers, chips and a drink. Very happy on that. Well, actually, I only got a burger yesterday. Really enjoyed it. I mean, there is always a group at every match. Some clubs more than others. which come for the day, not for the club. And I know of other clubs, Dulwich Hamlet as an example, really don't, no offence to all Dulwich Hamlet fans, I've got very close mate who is, I don't like Dulwich Hamlet, you know, they want to stay in the division they're in because they can keep serving alcohol.
Joe
42:25 - 42:53
So, and a lot of their fans are yummy, yummy Dulwich, Dulwich mums and dads who come out for the day. However, that works for them because they, you know, different types of food, you can get lots of food bags in. A large core of our club, come every week for the club. There are, and you know, I don't think we can, we can think of the wide array of things, wood fire pizza, you know, a Caribbean food truck, maybe a curry one, one week, maybe one that alternates or I could, I could get behind that.
Joe
42:53 - 43:36
But I'd, I'd actually say also improve maybe a bit more option in the, in the, the other, the, the burgers and the hot, the hot dogs, because That is where the bulk of what people get. I mean, you know, eight quid for a double double cheeseburger, which It's quite a lot and it isn't the price. I don't think the burger you get is worth eight quid. That is my personal thing. I never get it. I only get the normal cheeseburger. However, I think if you made it better value about, let's say you get a slightly bigger burger or you reduce the prices, you'd get a lot more people getting it.
Joe
43:36 - 44:15
And that's actually, you know, I think what a lot of the fan base would want. I think that actually, you know, might provide some alternate and, you know, let's say we did a day where it's a nice hot summer's day in the start of the season, you know, 26th of August, the bank holiday days, that is the day to do it, because you'll get people who come out and think, Oh, nice day, let's go to the football, you know, what is it league match, close match, nice atmosphere, blah, blah, blah, blah. on the dark, dreary days of Maidenhead at home in November, I really don't see, you know, jerk chicken plantain and rice going down in a massive trend for the vendor or for the fans.
Joe
44:15 - 44:25
I think people pretty much get me a chips, get me a tea and get me home and get away. I think people want that. So I think you've got to think of the scenario and the kind of feasibility for the club and the seller.
Mike Dowling
44:26 - 45:00
Yeah, exactly, because you don't want to have this thing where we invite people in and go, oh yeah, we're getting crowds of like 3,000. They're thinking, right, I'm going to get loads of them, and they sell four things already. But yeah, I mean, I do like the idea of some different options on a different basis. But all right, we're going to finish up with yesterday. We're going to do the good, bad, and funny eventually. It's Fuzzy Bear, waka, waka, waka, not wap, wap, wap. Oh.
Joe
45:01 - 45:12
Oh, that scared the life out of me. Oh, it's a good one. No, no, no, it's good. It scared the life out of me. I was expecting the wap, wap, wap, you know. Wap, wap, you see? It kept me on my toes.
Mike Dowling
45:13 - 45:14
What's good about yesterday?
Joe
45:16 - 45:25
Um, what was good about yesterday? John Meaney said hello to me. I don't think he had a clue who he was, but he gave me a very nice hello. So
Joe
45:25 - 45:25
thank you,
Joe
45:25 - 45:33
John. um so he's lovely you know i think you know everyone else in the office said hello to me how are you mate and you're good didn't have a clue i was but give me a really nice
Joe
45:33 - 45:38
welcome so Does he?
Mike Dowling
45:38 - 45:40
Watches or listens, I can't remember.
Joe
45:40 - 45:40
So
Joe
45:40 - 45:41
John,
Joe
45:41 - 45:57
John, I'm the one at the back of the office who was sat on a chair, who you went to Jack, then you went to Aaron, then you went to me. So, yeah, I'm Joe. I'll see you, I'll see you, I'll see you at another game of this, if you know who I am. If he isn't listening, I've just said this whole spiel for nothing, but if you are, hello.
Mike Dowling
45:58 - 46:26
But, um, John's baby was there with his wife. And he said, oh, my family going to come and you best warn your wife. As soon as I see that child, I'm going to be coming in and just basically taking him from her. I saw him afterwards and. Yeah, there was, in the VP, I think it was Bruce, Gary and Steve talking to each other. And as I came in, they kind of turned and said hello. I went, yeah, yeah, yeah, far more important things. I went straight up and grabbed the bag that I was playing with.
Mike Dowling
46:26 - 46:28
And the kids were like, who the hell is this?
Joe
46:29 - 46:33
Some random guy. We don't want to tell him to leave. He just takes everyone's babies and starts
Mike Dowling
46:33 - 47:04
taking them. But yeah, I didn't go for lots of unsolicited advice going, oh, when you go back to work, this, that, you got to do this. And I went, yeah, everyone keeps telling you this when you've got a baby, I'm sorry. It's bad. So yeah, giving any advice to new mums, try and always frame it that it's, you could do this, not you should do this, because eventually you'll get a punch in the face and I should have got one. What was bad yesterday? I
Joe
47:04 - 47:18
could say the result, but it's really boring. I will say my clothing choices. I decided not to wear a coat. And that was actually quite nice because the weather wasn't bad, but I was then walking... Do
Joe
47:21 - 47:23
you know Elephant and Castle Station?
Mike Dowling
47:24 - 47:24
Yes, I do.
Joe
47:25 - 47:27
Do you know the National Rail and the Underground bit are separate?
Mike Dowling
47:28 - 47:28
Yes.
Joe
47:29 - 47:29
I
Joe
47:29 - 47:53
didn't. so I had to walk around for the gas at like half seven and it was really cold and I had my like Sutton gilet slash jacket up and I was like this and I was like yeah I really should have brought my coat over this but otherwise I look like the Michelin man so you know it's the trials and tribulations of a 17 year old learning how to dress for the football you know we're all on the journey together guys I mean I'll give you an update soon.
Mike Dowling
47:54 - 47:56
I don't need your advice, mum. I'm a big boy now.
Joe
47:57 - 48:05
That's literally what happened. Sure, you don't want to take a cut? And I was like, no, no, the weather's nice. The amount of times that's happened this season, I still don't learn.
Mike Dowling
48:05 - 48:20
Yeah. Well, for me, the reaction, the knee jerk, massive swing the other direction. I know they come, but it didn't even take me by surprise. What was funny?
Joe
48:21 - 48:31
What was funny? Ah, this is really funny. So, Tony Dolbear, the club legend or media
Joe
48:31 - 48:39
officer. So, he arrived at the ground yesterday and Max, the ticketing guy, was tucking into like a
Joe
48:40 - 49:19
jar or like a mug full of oats and honey and fruit and lovely like that. And Tony, genuinely with the best delivery ever, said, Max, are you eating mud? completely unironically, and the whole meeting of his person to laugh at, and he said, yeah, now it's just organic mud, and he was genuinely concerned about Max's well-being, because it's oats and like things, it actually sounded really nice, it did look like mud in a jug, mud in a mug, and like Tony was like genuinely like, he was stood there I think for like 10 seconds trying to work out what it was, and then just like, announced to the rest of the room and I know
Joe
49:20 - 49:25
it was just very funny. Maybe I had to be there, but that's the only real funny thing I can remember.
Mike Dowling
49:25 - 49:35
I can hear Tony's voice when you say that. Right, perfect. I'm stealing someone's baby or taking my coat off and putting it back on promptly.
Joe
49:37 - 49:42
You're gonna get Bram as the baby snatcher, Mike the baby snatcher darling.
Mike Dowling
49:43 - 49:58
yeah do you know what everyone's like doesn't understand because i saw um little cheese yesterday cj and i haven't seen her for ages just came in and swooped her up and she was just sitting in my arms nicely i was like I probably shouldn't do this. If
Joe
49:58 - 49:58
I don't take them
Mike Dowling
49:58 - 50:19
away from the parents, I have to pick them up. I'd rather spend my day with kids than adults, to be honest. Right, so very quickly, Solihill on Tuesday. It's going to be on in the bar. Hopefully. Because someone has been given the responsibility to make sure it goes on in the bar.
Joe
50:19 - 50:37
Oh dear! So for anyone coming on Sunday, bring alternative entertainment just in case Martin can't get it on. Bring Ludo apps of games on your phone and perhaps a game of charades.
Mike Dowling
50:37 - 50:43
No, I'll be there, so there's microphones, so even if the TV's not on...
Joe
50:43 - 50:44
Do a live podcast.
Mike Dowling
50:45 - 50:48
I'll just listen to a mix alarm and tell everyone what's going on.
Joe
50:50 - 50:52
Someone scored, I'm not sure who. I'm
Mike Dowling
50:52 - 50:52
not
Joe
50:52 - 50:52
sure who.
Mike Dowling
50:53 - 51:20
Oh hang on, it might be for them. Oh no, I'm listening to a different game, sorry. Yeah. Yes, do come along on Tuesday, it will be good. I really enjoyed it when we did that, the Gateshead one. It's actually, I think there was about 50, 60 people in there at one point. So yeah, that was real fun watching the game. I know it's a good game, but really good to watch it with other Sutton fans as well. But how do you see it going? How do you feel that we're going to do? We are playing better away.
Mike Dowling
51:20 - 51:37
Well, we seem to be playing better away than we do at home. But someone did stats, I think, on Amber Planet. And they said we get an average of 1.33 points away and 1.35 at home. So it's actually similar. That could have been the other way around. But the results are actually very, very similar. But it seems to be we're playing better away.
Joe
51:38 - 52:16
We play, we've, we've had more away postponements as well though. So that's the one thing I would say. Solihull have made a real blunder with their managerial decision. Matt Taylor from, I think Matt Taylor, is Matt Taylor from Wildstone? I'm pretty sure. I'm going to check because otherwise I've just named some random other player. Matt Taylor is the manager. No, it's not Matt Taylor. Hold on. Oh, no, that is Matthew Taylor. There's two Matt Taylors. There's two managers. Sorry, little detail. But yeah, no, they've, yeah, it doesn't seem to be working for them. You know, nowhere near the heights of where they got to last season, minutes away from Wembley, minutes away from League Two.
Joe
52:16 - 52:51
So, we should be looking to capitalise on that. You've got a lot of players who couldn't play on Saturday, who will likely probably come into the XI on Tuesday, apart from Bez, who's going to have a nice, well not a nice, but just a rest for the next week or two. He's got a weird, he got three games off for the suspension, then an extra one because he got a red at Bromley earlier this season, which for some reason means he has to have another game, but you know, rules are rules, I guess. So yeah, that'll be a nice, in a nice direction.
Joe
52:51 - 53:18
I'd like Dylan to start, I think that'd be good. You'll probably have Tyler, Sidhu, um come come into the team um yeah i'd like i don't want to see us play another three back really i'd like us to to go back to where i don't know i just feel a bit worried by the way they're doing but they're not in good form at all uh and we should be trying to take take care of that i mean this month There are quite a lot of games where I look at them and say, yeah, this could actually be quite a good month for us.
Joe
53:18 - 53:54
We catch up now. We don't have an extra two games. That's another positive of the trophy. We have, you know, the likes of Woking, Aldershot, and Rochdale around us, who all got through. You know, they're not too far off, all of them. They all have games Well, Rochdale have only played 30 games. Some teams have played 34, 35. So now they've got a massively congested fixture schedule. I can imagine, I wouldn't be surprised if we just saw Tuesday, Saturday for the rest of the season for them. Look, we've got Solihull. looking for points there. Dagenham, who look like they're just sliding, sliding, sliding, sliding.
Joe
53:54 - 54:25
Boston, Halifax, who can be very interchangeable based on the day. Forest Green away, which, you know, we had a great time there last season. It's kicked a little bit of a revival for us. That was good. Fylde have interim managers. They look like they're sliding towards the drop as well. So you've got lots of games where you look at them and think, yeah, that could be good. And you know, I'm not saying, oh, seventh, we're going to clinch seventh. I think that's a bit far at the moment. And you know, I think the aim for the squad will be, all right, let's try and get top ten.
Joe
54:25 - 54:46
That's the first aim, see what we can do from there. And national league champions. National League Cup champions. No, but yeah, for Solihull, I think We've got to be looking to take advantage and use it as momentum because it'd be very easy to let spending more affect that result and then slide and not make the most of the next few. Who do we put on the eight?
Mike Dowling
54:48 - 54:48
Maidenhead.
Joe
54:49 - 55:23
Maidenhead. Yeah, another team who can be very interchangeable based on the day. So this could be an excellent month. but I know it's good to feel I can play Devil's Advocate. It could, if we don't, I feel like Sunny Hill is a real platform for us to build and we've got to use it effectively. You know, it's away, away, away, three away games on the chart Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday. So it's brutal. We have to, we can come out of that with six, seven, if not nine points. Forest Green's a difficult game, but you know, I would not back us.
Joe
55:24 - 55:55
So We've just got to be looking to be positive. And this is another reason why the comments, as you said, and the stuff and the way that people turn gets and really gets on my nerves, because you say, oh, Turner, new game. It's very difficult with a new game when you've got so many people just not hating, for want of a better word. I mean, it's a massively important time of season. You say, oh, playoffs are out of possibility now. Playoffs aren't out of the possibility until they're mathematically out of the possibility. Steve said that throughout, you know, it's not over till it's over.
Joe
55:55 - 55:57
So, yeah. I'm
Mike Dowling
55:57 - 56:01
not saying we're going to win the next three in a trot, but if we were to win the next three in a trot, suddenly it's a whole different conversation.
Joe
56:01 - 56:08
Exactly. We're eighth, and results have gone away, and we're, you know, three points off the playoffs. Exactly.
Mike Dowling
56:11 - 56:11
And
Joe
56:11 - 56:12
so, yeah.
Mike Dowling
56:13 - 56:22
Yeah, I'm definitely with you there. I'm going to push you, though, for a prediction. I mean, you don't join in the league. You've done one and got one point.
Joe
56:23 - 56:26
I'm so proud of it. Do you know something good about being
Joe
56:26 - 56:34
bottom of the league? 2-4 in favour of Sutton.
Mike Dowling
56:35 - 56:35
I
Joe
56:35 - 56:39
don't know why. I was going to say 2-1, but it's boring. But I think you're going to say 2-1 now.
Mike Dowling
56:40 - 56:42
No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm going to go 2-0 for us.
Joe
56:43 - 56:44
Yeah. I
Joe
56:44 - 56:50
genuinely think we would win every single competition we played in if it was down to me and your predictions.
Mike Dowling
56:51 - 56:53
Yeah. Alex Treacy is even worse than us.
Joe
56:54 - 56:54
We'd be in
Mike Dowling
56:54 - 57:32
the championship by now. would be champions league um one other little quick thing i just mentioned on maidenhead um so yes i was in the bar chatting uh yesterday and um said to bruce right see you in a couple of weeks and he was like what do you mean a couple of weeks because there's other games and then steve turned around and went yeah but he doesn't go to away games does he and i'm like And then the two of them tried telling me that Maidenhead was in the M25. And I'm like, it ain't. I promise you it is not within the M25.
Mike Dowling
57:32 - 57:40
I know, my little moat, I know what's inside the M25 and what's outside. So, um, Chertsey was just about inside. So let's, let's...
Joe
57:40 - 57:49
I want, I want, I wanted to go to Maidenhead, but I have uh a musical uh on and a birthday party so i was like
Speaker 4
57:49 - 57:49
oh
Joe
57:49 - 57:56
because it's an old-fashioned school old-fashioned ground it's quite fun to come to go to but oh well it is what it is um exactly
Mike Dowling
57:57 - 58:00
right we have done amazingly well all those people at the start
Speaker 4
58:00 - 58:00
what
Mike Dowling
58:01 - 58:31
are they talking about they've done about an hour why are they saying they're gonna build up minutes um yeah i'm gonna draw it to a close now so we're wrapping up this episode of something podcast uh we always appreciate your Go on, say it Joe. Attention. Attention and feedback. Get involved in the Know Me, Know You segment. How do you deal with a loss? And follow, like, share, give me all the thumbs up on YouTube and all the other little comments and stuff. Thank you to people who have been commenting recently. I've tried to keep on top of it.
Mike Dowling
58:32 - 58:50
Difficult with young George on because he was very popular on TikTok. Logged into TikTok and saw suddenly 99 likes and comments. The hell is this nonsense? It's the burgers. It's the burgers, the burger buns. Maybe we should just change this to the Sutton podcast on the
Speaker 4
58:50 - 58:50
tube.
Joe
58:51 - 59:25
So that bread for burger, let's do 40 minutes just on Halleck. Before we go, for anyone that doesn't see it, Ashley Nadesan has a Twitch channel that I didn't realize he did, and he livestreams Fortnite with the other Saturn players. And last night I ended up watching him, Tyler French, Henry Sandow, and Josh Cody play Fortnite for 30 minutes, and I had a conversation with him in the chat. And genuinely, it was really entertaining, because if you ever want to remind that these people are human, they really are human, especially for people my age, because, you know, And
Joe
59:25 - 59:25
they're just
Joe
59:25 - 59:37
like four people of any kind of younger age playing any video game. And it just made me laugh. So, yeah. Go watch Nadas on Twitch. It is a joyful experience if you're a Saturn fan. I
Mike Dowling
59:38 - 59:39
think he does dance on there as well.
Joe
59:39 - 59:43
He does. Yeah, I'm gonna go play dance against him when he does next.
Mike Dowling
59:44 - 1:00:17
to get Tim Vine involved. But yeah, follow, like, share and all that other stuff. Don't forget to subscribe. And we're going to be back after the Solihull match. I think it's Jenny so far, and I'll probably try and grab someone who's watching in the bar as well. Don't let that put you off coming into the bar, just come anyway. As always, thank you to our sponsors, Lucky Star Gin. Thank you to yourself, Joe. And for you listening, I hope you've enjoyed this podcast and this episode of the Sutton Podcast. Sorry, missed it out there. Take care and we'll see you soon!
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