Welcome back to another episode of Sutton United Talk Time on Podcast, the channel dedicated to all things Sutton United, brought to you in association with Lucky Star Gin. I'm your host, Mike, and today I'm joined by two FA Cup enthusiasts, Sarah and Paul. Both of our guests are buzzing with excitement for the FA Cup, and we can't wait to dive into the action!
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Hello and welcome to another episode of Sutton United Talktime on the podcast. It's the Sutton podcast. We're an association with LuckystarGin. I'm your host, Mike, and with me on the panel today, we have got 2 FA Cup enthusiasts. I didn't choke whilst trying to say that, so we're off to a great start. We've got Sarah and Paul. The reason I say that is when I sent out the invite both of them came back saying we want the FA Cup or I'm going to the FA Cup. It doesn't matter. So I'm going to go to that 1.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): It doesn't matter where it is. We love hearing from you. All the engagement, likes, tweets, all the rest of it. Love it. Thank you very much. Keep sharing and liking and commenting. But we're going to get into FA Cup action. I've been reading some different things today because I thought it was quite a good game yesterday, but apparently I'm in the minority. Sarah, how have you been?
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Sarah: I kind of agree with you, Mike. I enjoyed myself yesterday.
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Paul: Yeah, that
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): was great. And Paul, the current prediction league pace setter, how
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Paul: are you? I'm very good. Yeah, not so bad at all. Not so bad. I didn't think he was that bad again yesterday.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I was very surprised seeing some of the comments but we'll create our own narrative, it's fine. But I did set some homework, I know Paul you remembered yesterday, I'm not sure if Sarah remembered at all but I'll play the jingle and I'll start with you Paul and then Sarah can quickly be thinking if she hasn't done it So Paul the question that I've set was what is 1 tradition that you would like to see the club revive, adopt a new 1 or revive? So revive an old 1 or start something new? What's 1 thing you'd like
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): to see?
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Paul: See, I had a good think about it and I couldn't really think of anything. The only thing that came to mind I've seen on social media before, half time, they do these assault courses with supporters, you know, where They do all sorts and someone went slide tackling into another 1 of the other participants and the likes. I thought that was quite funny. So I was going to go with that. That might be quite funny.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): A little halftime entertainment, all right.
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Paul: Yeah, something a bit different.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah, not sure it worked well last time they tried it but okay Yeah, I think and and Sarah have you got 1 that like to adopt or revive?
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Sarah: Yeah, I would like to bring back proper end-of-season parties like in the last few years We've had some really nice award ceremonies, but that's kind of, they've kind of fizzled out that everyone's gone home. And it'd be nice to have a proper knees up at the end of the season. You know what I mean? Because we used to all get drunk, didn't
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): we? We're older now.
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Sarah: Yeah, that's true. We still get drunk though.
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Paul: No wiser.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): No, absolutely not, no. There was the 1, I keep mixing up the name, but it was Lucy that was reminding me of it. It's 1 of those things that you know but revived when the ball was kicked out of the stadium and you think it's levered. Everyone shouts because there was something that happened that the ball would gone to lever it and it's like,
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Sarah: it's Red Hill.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Red Hill, that's it. That's the 1. And that's kind of gone off a little bit, but she shouted it. You're fatigued.
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Sarah: Yeah, you're right. We should bring that 1 back.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Bring that back. I haven't really looked an awful lot at Club News, I've been busy today. I did see 1 thing that I have tweeted out that apparently next week in hospitality, and I don't normally plug it, but Mickey Joyce is going to be doing the Q&A in hospitality. God knows what Mickey Joyce is going to talk about. I mean, the man's done nothing, has he? I mean, nothing of great note that anyone could possibly want to know from Mickey Joyce. But yeah if you're interested, some good stories I'm sure 1 particular story might be said
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): 9 times. Asking about my reigns he was booed as well. But onto the match, as I said both of you love the FA Cup. How were you feeling ahead of it? Paul, I saw you living up to your pessimistic nickname. We'll start with you. How were you feeling going into the game and what did you feel about the lineup as it was announced because I mean steve did say no not going to change anything it's going to be a strong lineup
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Paul: yeah I was yeah a little bit pessimistic I saw that it could be a potential banana skin They're a club who are on a quite an upward trajectory. They've had a couple of promotions and winning has become a norm for them. So I think I was at the thinking that we could, they could cause an upset, you know, We can be inconsistent sometimes. In my head, we were favorites, but I was saying, oh, about 60-40, 65-35, something like that. So
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Paul: they were definitely in
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Paul: for a chance, but I was hopeful that we'd do enough to get through it. Lineup wise, good to see Jack start. I was pleased to see him getting a chance and Matt Rush as well, actually, because He hasn't had a huge amount of time and good to see him. And Sid you started as well, actually, didn't he? So, yeah, it's good to see a few of the players who aren't, haven't really been starting recently, getting a chance to start and and stay clean. Yeah.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah. And Sarah, what was your your thoughts on the sort of your expectations from it and the lineup when it came out?
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Sarah: It's quite unfortunate I don't really have much different to say. I was really looking forward to it. You know I'm always up for an FA Cup game. And it like Paul, so I was thinking the same thing about Chelsea being our trajectory. And you know, they're definitely gonna be up for it as well. Got there and found that their fans were certainly up for it. And that was creating a really good atmosphere, which I really liked because often, I think that would have been difficult to create at our ground and because of the way their fan
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Sarah: zone was set up on the ground it just it felt like a proper FA Cup tie when you walked in and it also another thing else we're looking forward to is you know I'm non-league at heart I quite like going to a traditional non-league ground. And I was looking forward to that because it's nice and it's really nice being able to just walk around and not worry about segregation and not worry about any of the usual rules. Just be good and behave yourself, which is always the rules. So yeah, I was really quite excited. Weather didn't
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Sarah: put a dampener on that, it's off me. Don't mind a bit of rain. And yeah, sort of line up and you know what Steve was saying about he's going for a strong line. Well, to be honest, from what he said, he's built a squad where there aren't any fringe players according to him. He's like, you know, he wants a squad full of strong players. So he can't really put out a weak side, can he?
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): No, exactly
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Sarah: But it was I mean like paul said it was it was interesting to see I'll take it. You mean jack sims, but we have got about 5 jacks for the moment. But yeah, that was an interesting 1 for me because I thought I wonder how he's gonna do
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah, and
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Sarah: then we saw how he did. So there we go.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah, I mean on on before we get into the actual game very similar with the going to a proper ground and the I was looking forward to the sort of switching ends at half time and they didn't do it did they Paul? All our lot went down the other end. There's me, you and Jenny standing amongst all the churchy fans. We're staying here. But yeah, no, it was nice and the mixing with people and just, yeah, yeah, I really
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Paul: enjoyed it. There's a few people behind us, wasn't there, who were celebrating that first goal and almost I felt them right on my shoulder sort of thing. I think they could be alright. We're not in a lot of
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): trouble. I'll say this when we get to it but I think there was something that helped very much us not be pointed out as horrid Sutton fans because of how we reacted to that first goal. But Sarah, you and Andy were there and then you kind of went around the side a little bit into, was it the open, open weather you were at or under 1 of the terraces?
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Sarah: Yeah, yeah, it was just because it was so crowded in there. Yeah, really a bit of a shorty pants. I couldn't really see. Yeah. And that's often the case. That's the downside of these traditional lonely grounds, as opposed to like a big fancy pants all Cedar stadiums.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): You have to bring a
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Paul: straight little ground though so tight and compact wasn't it? It's really nice. I really like that about it
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah, like like those I've always I mean obviously it's massive difference to gander green lane where the pitch is quite far away From from the fans always like those sort of close ones. But then you don't have the ball boys. So, but as we said, we got off to a fantastic start and they scored after 4 minutes. How were you feeling at that point? I will tell you what Paul and I and Jenny were doing at that point,
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Paul: but How were you feeling at that point? I will tell you what Paul and I and
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Jenny were doing at that point, but how were you feeling at that point after they scored so early?
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Sarah: It's hard to say that,
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Paul: I will
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Sarah: kind of explain, but I wasn't feeling too disheartened. We made a really terrible start and it happens sometimes, but I think I turned to Andy next to me and said, well, you've got plenty of time to sort this out. And I did still feel optimistic at that point, even though it was, I think it was the kind of it's the kind of thing that they're gonna go oh crap we've got to turn this round sort of out and it was giving me give him a bit of a kick and I'd rather that happened at 4 minutes
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Sarah: than 84 minutes quite
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): frankly funny enough that was actually the opinion of a lot of the churchy fans around us after they finished celebrating they were like oh god it's really early but what we did is as that goal went in me, paul and jenny just started laughing it was like oh great yeah lovely any potential people laughing at us going, they're laughing themselves. But how were you feeling at that point, Paul? I mean, I think you would, you'd said, oh, you've got plenty of time, but how were you?
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Paul: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I thought they just came out of the blocks. They they they were they were well up for
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Paul: it and they they they
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Paul: flew at us and they had a couple of chances before that was it 1 chance for that 1 good chance and I think it might
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Paul: have had another 1 as well. And then
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Paul: obviously they got the goal. Yeah, it was early, still got plenty of time. But I don't think I was too fearful. I knew, I think I said a couple of points, I had more goals in this game.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): You did also say it might not be for Sutton though.
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Paul: Yeah, very much so. But that's the pessimist in the end.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): But Then 1 of those players who obviously decided, yeah, enough, enough here was the magnificent Josh. How was he? I mean, the header across the goal and then that, well, I don't even know if the kids still say these kind of things but filthy goal that he scored
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Sarah: that's exactly the word I used yeah
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I was as I'm putting it out like oh god I don't know but so how how was his impact Paul and how impressed are
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Paul: you again with him? Yeah, I mean he's he's strength to win that header. He he looks big and strong. He looks so so much wired up this season and I remember him last season but just yeah, big strong
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Paul: and he's got
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Paul: up really well on the fullback. It's a great ball over from Tyler French as well. We didn't seem to play quite a lot of crossfield balls like that and seemingly hit the mark as well. So I was quite impressed with that from Tyler when he's lung passing. But yeah, got up so well, great header across. I've watched the highlights and whoever was doing the highlights, whoever they were standing next to, they were convinced that Josh was offside or either that or, well, it can't have been Matt who was offside because he was the square ball pretty
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Paul: much, wasn't it? And he was he was behind him.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): So, so, yeah, there's a lot of shouting
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Paul: for offside. And rather than yeah, possibly possibly but no, very impressed and then, yeah, a goal again.
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Paul: He's got the ball out
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Paul: on the edge and he's just he's skinned the right back isn't he and he's come inside and great great technique to stick it in yeah turned it around very quickly what was that 8 9 minutes yeah
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): it was very quick to to get that I mean rushie's goal obviously you've always loved strikers to get off the mark, but he hasn't played much. But yeah, nice little run in. There we go. Don't get many players who can score in that 6 yard box. So we're impressed with him. Sarah, will you go on that 1? How were you feeling about the goals and Matt Rush and Josh?
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Sarah: Fantastic, Mike. I mean, like you say, it was a filthy goal. He just hit it that beautifully. And Josh, he's really stood out this season, hasn't he? He's just, he's just been an absolute star. And like you say, we haven't seen much of Matt Rush, but it was really good to see, to see 1 come from him as well, because I've really been wanting that for him because he hasn't really had a chance so good for him basically and yeah that I think that made us all very happy didn't it?
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Could have been even happier because when it was I'm sure it was the first half as well he had another another 1 ruled out for offside another 1 where big evil Matt Rush injured their goalkeeper, who was about 3 times the size of him. I'll be honest, I expected their goalkeeper to get a lot more stick than he did so well done to the fans for not giving him too much sticks. We knew before we were looking going...
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Paul: The youngsters are a bit more lenient perhaps, I don't know.
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Sarah: Bobby youngsters themselves.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Years ago he would definitely have got some stick even from those of us bigger than him. But yeah, first half we seem to be controlling things and going in, I think we could have gone in at 3-1 but going in quite comfortable would you say Paul?
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Paul: Yeah I think so I think we definitely were as you say in control of the game I think they they had a couple of attacking threats but nothing that was that really troubled us too much. I can't remember Jack having to do too much in the latter half. If there was any saves they were pretty regulation, pretty straightforward.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): It was 1 where you and I were quite nervous but we realized it was probably the perception we were at where the ball went in and it looked like it was going top right and we were like oh okay maybe. Yeah
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Paul: and it looked like it hit it The fellow hit it and how he had were very different. There was a lot of pace on the ball that couldn't really tell from the from the depth. Yeah.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Sarah, what were you hoping for at half time? Or was it you just want more of the same? Or were you hoping we were going to make a few changes to keep the energy up?
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Sarah: I was hoping to keep up the momentum because we did finish strong in the first half. It was kind of a bit of a mixed up game because there were periods where we were on top for quite a while and then there were periods where Chelsea seemed to take control and it was like we were taking it in turns to control the game wasn't it? Just wanted to stay like we were because we had a really good spell towards the end of the first half And so I mean to be honest I wasn't I didn't really
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Sarah: have any hopes about whether we'd make any changes or not because I leave that to the gaffer. You know, he knows stuff that I don't about players and how they are and stuff like that. But yeah, I was kind of a bit suckered and see when it comes to that. But yeah, I just wanted to just wanted to keep up the momentum there. So, I mean, if you'd pressed me at the time, I would have said, yeah, keep it the same for now because we're doing all right at the moment.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah. I mean, second half started and I was chit chatting and suddenly heard this big noise, ran out and oh, we scored a goal. I Didn't see that at all. So Sarah we'll start with you on that how What happened? Was it offside? Well, well We'll start there.
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Sarah: No, the action was just hooray. We've scored and it didn't occur to me That it might have been offside to be honest It might have been obvious, but it didn't occur to me at the time. And then it just it was a bit weird because it kind of Seemed to I mean the linesman didn't flag it so That's probably why didn't occur to me And then there was a bit of trouble that 1 of the churchy players given the refs and lip. And then he was talking to the Lionsman for, it seemed like, ages. And I
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Sarah: was actually a bit shocked when he was in the World Cup, you know, overturned. So I was like, oh, we haven't scored then. And I was really confused to my own because it'd been like it said 3 on the school for a little while
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah, I mean it was Nick a few weeks ago on the home games He said you can would score the goal or something and he said you can tell the age of all the Sutton supporters because all the old vintage ones immediately seems all hits and everyone's eyes and heads turned towards the Lionsmen's expecting it to be rolled out. Yeah, you lot are used to all this. But what were you thinking of that goal that wasn't?
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Paul: Yeah, I mean, from what I saw, it looked like it was a goal. It didn't look like there was a problem. Lionsman didn't flag, referee gave the goal And then the the Chelsea defenders started protesting. 1 of them got a yellow card, I think, as well for his protests. And then for some reason, maybe they're talking on the microphones and the referees gone over to the linesman to ask him if he thought it was offside and and they've had a chat about it, put their heads together and decided it was offside. Unbelievable. No of them giving
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Paul: an offside and
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Paul: yet somehow they've got their heads together and decided it was.
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Paul: Yeah. Very odd. I mean, it was obviously the ball, there was the shot and it's come back off the goalkeeper. So, they are saying he was offside when that shot was taken. Yeah. I mean, I've, again, watched the highlights a little bit and it's not, there's no conclusive proof because they're not the best, they look like they're taking on a phone or something or they're not that professionally done. Yeah. But as it scans round, it does look like, who's it, who's going in? Is it Matt Rusch again or is it Will? Yeah. Anyway, it looked like
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Paul: the defender at that point was, was behind him, if you like, he was onside. But he could have, there could have been difference in the movement. So I think it's a bit of a joke of a decision and no idea how they got to it. Personally, I think it was shit with the goal.
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Sarah: The guys who
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Paul: got the goal it feels
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Sarah: a bit hard done by now doesn't it? But we don't know what he said. He might have used some choice language that was not crucial.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah. I mean, we set the tone, the referee, for the second half at that point, whether it was just we all felt hard done by, like you just said about the defender, or he really was just being shocking, but he made quite a few decisions. 1 of them we'll get to in a minute but the, there was 1 other great save from Jack and again I've not actually watched the highlights back but someone on Twitter has put on about the highlights he said the save from Jack, the highlights do not do it justice at all. I
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): was right behind it and it was absolutely brilliant. So overall, what did you make of Jack's performance before we get to the controversial moment? What do you think of Jack's performance, Paul?
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Paul: I was very impressed, yeah. I mean, I've said that I I saw the man in the match vote and there were 4 players on the United WhatsApp channel and he wasn't 1 of them.
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Paul: I was
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Paul: like, what's going on there? How is that possible? I thought he had a good game, solid at the back. I felt like his shot stopping was very good. He was dependable back there. I know he's a little bit shorter. A lot of people have said he's a bit shorter and doesn't command the area as well as perhaps Steve Arnold would but I was very impressed with his performance and the save that he made was top draw, getting down low, spreading himself, brilliant, yeah, very impressed.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Probably Morrison said don't put him included in the in the man of the match role because if he wins it and then he's dropped next week he's some questions. So what did you think of Jack's performance overall before we get to the moment?
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Sarah: I think you're not going to mention yet. Let me use a nice cliche for you. I think he rose to the occasion magnificently. What I was particularly impressed with was the fact that he hasn't played with proper games with this team before and he communicated with them really well and you know yeah he just he just he just did everything right really and yeah can't argue with that.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Well We will talk about the penalty and the reason why I don't really want to include that in Jack's thing is it seems like he's done nothing to give away the penalty and nothing to save the penalty. So I shouldn't really even be talking about Jack and the penalty. So from my view it did look like he cleared the ball and the player came in or was kind of there in his way but you don't often see goalkeepers give away penalties for that although Dino did tail end the last season. Did you think it was a
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): penalty? Sarah, we'll start with you from your point of view was that a pen?
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Sarah: Well I was all the way down the other end, unlike you guys. So I was just like, is there a penalty? What for?
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): There was a delay, wasn't there? Yeah. There was a bit of a delay between.
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Sarah: I just couldn't figure out what it was for at all. Paul? I didn't see anything that was penalty worthy.
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Paul: Yeah, I mean, I was off to, I was down the opposite end as well, obviously, for the second half, and I was off to 1 side a little bit. I didn't get the best view but I could see clearly that Jack punched the ball and the ball clearly went away from him. It wasn't as if the, I didn't see a ricochet as if the striker had got to the ball first. In my eyes, Jacker got to the ball and cleared it. And as he's cleared the ball, they've had a coming together. Was it the striker, I
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Paul: mean, with biased eyes, the striker was bundled into Jackers. He's cleared the ball. You know, it was a late, would
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Paul: you call that a
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Paul: late challenge on the goalkeeper points? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe maybe
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Paul: with the biased view, you would but
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Paul: it seemed a very soft penalty. It didn't look like a penalty at all to me. But as you say, Dino gave 1 away. Was it getting Doncaster?
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): It was
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Paul: 97th minute or something. So maybe there's a I don't know the laws. I don't know everything about the laws. I don't know the laws inside now, you know? So maybe there's something in there,
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): but yeah. But it was 1 in the first half, which I think I said to you, it was for us. I think I said to you at the time It's 1 of the ones if it's a given against you you're absolutely howling about it But if it's given for you like yeah, yeah, it's definite definite pain hundred percent I can't what it was but there was something in the first half that happened that we'd mentioned that Always had the handball
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Paul: Yes kind of
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): bounced up here and it was like, if that was given against you, you'd be absolutely fuming. But yeah, Jack, I aimed in the interview, of course I saved it.
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Paul: I think his tongue was firmly in his cheek. I wasn't sure though.
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Paul: I wasn't sure from the
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Paul: far end whether he had or not. I heard it hit the post.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I did ask, I said, I sent a message shortly after, did you actually get a touch on that? And then a little while later I sent it back, I've seen the pre-match interview, the post-match interview, I've got my answer and he just laughed going, no! So got away with it there, but yeah, That would have been a 2-2 and there are replays at this stage. Whether that gave the players a little bit of a kick, I don't know. But how pleased were you with the, with Madison crossing it low, Sarah, and getting that mid. The seventh
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): minute of 9 added in the second half, that was just like, okay, we expected 5, but 9 was a bit much, but 7 of them weeks were the goal. So yeah, What were you feeling at that point? A relief or? Elation.
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Sarah: Yeah, I felt, I kind of felt like it was coming. I felt like we just needed to seal the deal, if you know what I mean. I think if it had ended 3-2, I think that wouldn't have been an unfair scoreline. I mean, Chertsey did a lot of work in that game, and so did we. But I think we certainly deserve to win. Doesn't matter how much you win behind the cup, there's no gold difference, is there? So, yeah.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): 2-1 still would have been nervy. But Paul, how were you feeling?
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Paul: Yeah, no, I was... Credit to Chelsea, they had a good battle day. They were definitely up for it and they gave a good account of themselves. I think our... I'd like to think our quality shone through and I think we were deserving of it, certainly. 9 minutes was unbelievable. There wasn't a goal in the second half, was there? At that point, there'd been a couple of stoppages but not 9 minutes worth, a few substitutions. 9 minutes was unbelievable. 2-1, it made you nervous, didn't it? If it meant the game was finished 3-1 and I got an
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Paul: exact prediction on the prediction.
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Paul: That will
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Paul: please Neil, I hope he didn't do 31.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): You were delighted obviously, yeah we know. I sort of messaged, so it seems their chairman's quite active on their social media as well, I messaged saying, your players seem to be determined to ruin my day. But it was a really good day out, really enjoyed it. I know a lot of other Sutton fans really enjoyed it and he came back to me going, your fans were great with ours, the mixed fan zone was really good atmosphere, good luck in the next round, fingers crossed you get a good draw and good luck for the rest of season
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I'll be keeping an eye on you guys and hope to come and get over to a game so we may make a fan 1 that I was particularly gutted about was when they tweeted out afterwards that they were 16 away from their record ever attendance.
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Paul: I was
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): like, why didn't you tell us that during the day? If you'd said this is how many tickets we've sold, we'd just need this many more. We probably would have raised another 20 people. Yeah, we're only 16 away from their record attendance and it and we've all said it was a good game good atmosphere
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Paul: it
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): did look like it was going to pee down and try and dampen it a little bit but it just made it a bit zippier but we're going to finish with that game very quickly we're just going to ask you the good the bad and the funny and obviously we know this is a jingle. Paul what was good for the day for you?
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Paul: I'd say the performance, the overall performance. Very happy with the victory. I thought, as I say, we're not going to ball about quite well at times. A lot of good performances. Good to see players who didn't have so many minutes getting time. So, yeah, I think that would be my
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): good enhancement. Alex Kirk. Started solid. Perfect. Yeah, great. Sarah, what was good for you?
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Sarah: Seeing you at an away game Mike. That was lovely.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I stopped counting really but there was between 30 to 50 people to say something along those lines. I wasn't even sure I knew that many people. Yeah it was within the M25 it's fine, it's in my comfort zone ish. What was bad, Sarah?
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Sarah: You're going to have to bear with me on this 1, right? 27 years ago, I went to the Churtsy v Sutton league match. And I had a portion of chips and they were the worst thing I'd ever tasted in my life. They were like little tiny floppy bags of 4 minutes and I thought well at least they'll be better now and I said I said that to a friend and he went no I just bought some and I had to throw them away they were terrible so I'm afraid chips were bad.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Okay I obviously don't normally get food at football but I saw this kid with their sausage I called it a sausage roll it's basically a sausage in a baguette. And I went and had it and I loved it. I thought it was great. Obviously, that wasn't chips, but I thought it
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Paul: was good. Glad you
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Sarah: didn't get chips.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Paul, what was bad for you?
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Paul: So I drove down and it was barely raining when I got there and I went went over to a pub and had a couple of drinks with non-alcoholic drinks with the usual lot. And I came out of the pub and he was absolutely chucking it down and I got drenched. I thought I'll get a car and I will get my umbrella as I was quite close. I got my umbrella within 1 minute of me getting the umbrella, it had stopped raining and it didn't rain again.
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Sarah: I had to jump into pound stretchers and shirts to buy 1 for
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): free. So
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Paul: the drenching yeah was I thought this here we go this is the sort of day we're gonna get.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I heard that story yesterday because I was the 1 as you walked in drying your head and your glasses. You've got an umbrella Paul, what the hell are you doing? Yeah I've been yeah sorry Paul that could have been my funny to be there But what was your?
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Paul: My funny Funny oh you might come back to me on that 1.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Sarah, what was funny for you?
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Sarah: It wasn't much funny for me, to be honest. In the first few minutes of the game, someone had kicked up the biggest divot I ever saw. It was huge. It was either just inside or just outside the penalty area. And I just thought it was funny that everyone was like stepping around trying to differ. And even at half time no 1 thought to put it back. It was still sitting there at the end of the game.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I liked all the kids being on the pitch at the end and they were running around and we're like what the hell Jesus Christ that's a nice pitch get them off and then when they eventually did get more fools
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Paul: I thought I thought of a little 1 it's relating to my umbrella again My umbrella was at the front and as I bent down to get it, there was a young lad who was standing next to us who put his hand out and stopped the ball from hitting me in the face. So maybe that's, you know, maybe it would have been funny if it had hit me in the face. Yeah. But he stopped the ball just before
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Paul: he hit me in the face as I was bending down.
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Sarah: That would have been hilarious if you bent down and then
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Paul: stood up.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): It was 1 over on the train home. Well, luckily for me, a group of the youngins adopted me on the way home because I actually didn't have a clue where I was going. But I got on the train and I could hear them at the other end of the carriage and they were being a bit noisy and I could see the people around me being a bit like I really want to have to go down and tell them to shut up because of the grumpy old dad and they were a bit quiet and then this little
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): kid I don't know who 3 and suddenly popped up on the seats in front and suddenly went Ali Ali Ali oh and they all started singing Ali Ali Ali oh and he did it about 4 or 5 times and everyone on the train that I could see obviously I can't see everyone but everyone on the train that I could see in the carriage had gone from smiling and laughing and ringing the slayers and I actually wow that is so sweet But there they got off at the right station for me and I'm standing around at Waiveridge
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): going, I don't know where to go and they're like, well yeah, you're going back home, yeah. They adopted me on the way home, which is good. I fucking blew where I was going. But yeah, that was a good day. But we are going to talk about Oldham. Hopefully, I'm gonna work out how to do this. And now we're gonna move on to our free Q preview. We are gonna get insights and thoughts of fans of our upcoming opponents. This week we are joined by Dave of the We Are Oldham group, I guess. You can explain that
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): in a second, Dave, and supporter of Oldham. And, we're going to find out a little bit more about them and find out what they've got to say and thoughts on the match. So thanks for joining us Dave. We've both sort of ducked out of the shopping I believe. Can you tell us a little bit more about yourself as a background of Oldham and a little bit more about the the fans media group type thing?
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Paul: Well, firstly, you need to do your research because I'm known as Sexy Dave. Sexy Dave, sorry. We are old, Boundary Park Alert System slash Latics Football phoning podcast. We're a fan-based media group who have just started a podcast. It's been going about 5 years and the phonings been going about 3 years. So yeah, it's 2 shows a week as you can appreciate. The wife loves us for that. But yeah, we've had some highs, we've had a lot of lows. But yeah, it's good. We've got Andy Halliwell, who's our stat man. We've got Arlene, who writes our
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Paul: blog. And we've got the ego maniac that's Matt Dean, who pulls it all together. But no, he's a great lad. But yeah, it's, it's been great fun. Our podcast is out at 5am on a Monday morning. And the phoning is live from half past 8 every Wednesday. So yeah, it's, it's keeps us busy. I mean, it's good.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Oldham keep you busy, obviously. We had Tommy O on a couple of seasons ago, and he gave us without any notes, any pausing, any stopping, the full lament of Oldham. And it was like, oh my God.
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Paul: Yeah, he's a great lad, Tommy. Tommy's a good lad. Yes, good lad.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Brilliant. So how about yourself? How long have you been supporting Oldham and what's your...
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Paul: Oh, goodness.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): What's your victim story?
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Paul: My victim's story, torrid history. My first game was 93-94 in the Premier League era versus Derby County in the FA Cup. We won 2-1 and that was the season we got to Wembley in the semi-final against Manchester United and the Welshman up front who can never be named at Poundry Park scored in the last minute and then we subsequently got relegated and it's been a downward trajectory for us, for me as a fan ever since, never seen any success. We've had a few good FA Cup runs but nothing. 30 years of nothing.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Beautiful and makes it even worse as that Welshman's team kind of went the slight opposite direction at that point as
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Paul: well. Yes.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): So I'm guessing not great, but what were the expectations for coming into the season and how has it gone so far with those expectations?
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Paul: Well, Andy and Matt's expectations because we signed a lot of new players, we got rid of a lot of draw slashes and they were third and fourth respectively both going up via the playoffs. I was a bit more considered because every time I've made a prediction I've got it wrong and I said 11th I think will tail off towards the end of the season. But so far, so good. We've lost 2 games, we've had 5 draws and the rest have been wins. So It is looking good. We have signed some very good players. I'm still a
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Paul: bit nervous though. I'm still a bit nervous for this. It's the hope that always kills me and I'm sick of trying to be positive all the time because it just kills me every season, every single season.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I know the feeling. I have the... I think it was Jack Cholton era of Ireland, where we expect to lose, but we hope to win. It's like, OK, yeah, I'll do that. My expectations are low, but my hopes are
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Paul: high. But you've had promotions, haven't you? We've had nothing. We've had nothing. We've not had a promotion. We've not had it. We've had just relegation after relegation. We've had a playoff semi-final. That is it. And we got beat off Blackpool. You know what I mean? It's just
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): like, goodness me. Even when we're points clear at the top end and we're like oh well okay yeah it's gonna blow up don't worry don't worry it won't happen so yeah we had...
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Paul: Yesterday we were 4 1 up at half time I was still worried against Halifax. The second half was abysmal, it was just abysmal. They came back and we were like, how long's left? It's 80 minutes, they can still score 2. That was the... Kate finished 4-2 and
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Paul: we were
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Paul: just like, oh my goodness mate. It was just
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): like, oh... As proper football supporters, knowing how bad it can go. But yeah, we've had sort of a really good 14, 15 years, and some of our... Well, they were younger fans, but they're not anymore, had kind of only started supporting around then and it's like you jammy jammy bastards. You don't know how great this is. But yeah we've got a nice core of young'uns as well now.
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Paul: That's good. We had Gunnar Haller on our phone a few weeks ago, and there were all these young people like, don't know who he is, we don't know who he is. And we've got the great Andy Liddell this week on Thursday. So we're trying to cater for all fans. We've had Mark White on, we've had Andy Ritchie, we've had the good mate.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Excellent. Well, what do you see as the main strengths and weaknesses at this point and are there any players that we should be looking out for? Who kind of gets you up out of your, well on your tiptoes, not out of your seats.
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Paul: Of late, we signed a lad from Altrincham last summer and he had an injury, he came back and he was called Josh Lundstrom and at the last 4 or 5 games he's really coming to his own. He presses, he pushes forward, he set up 2 of the goals yesterday and he's a really, really tricky operator. He's grown into, he obviously played for Old Tringham, being a small horrible club that they are, it must have been really difficult to have come to a massive conglomerate, you know, club like Oldham. And he did struggle, He was very, he
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Paul: didn't press, he was a bit out of sorts, but Mickey Mellon seems to have turned the corner with him and really pushed him, and he was saying last season, there's a good player in there, you've just got to wait, and he's been outstanding. And he has had these criticisms from the fans as well, but to be fair, he's knuckled down and done really well and his phases of play, his patterns of play, the one-two touches are really good but he does go out in and out of games as well sometimes. He'll make a mistake and then
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Paul: go hide him for about 20 minutes. In terms of threats though, you've got Mike von God's number 9. He just, you know, a one-on-one where he has to think about it, he'll miss it, but 1 back to goal and turn on the volley, he'll score it and make it look easy. He's a frustrating character, but he gives everything, absolutely everything. And that's what we ask as fans. We don't want the sulky big-time players. We want people to give their all. And our defence is probably our strongest point because we've got Manu Monte, Charlie Ragland, Regan Ogle
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Paul: and like Will Sutton at the back as well as Michael Kitchey. We don't score, we don't concede many goals in open play. We're a bit susceptible from a set piece, but all in all, we are, we're very strong defensively because Manu Monte is outstanding. He was at Northampton last year. He played with Mickey Mellon under Tranmere and how he signed him for the National League he's a League 2 player potentially League 1 he's that good.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Excellent right well our attack is probably our strongest point at this point. This is going to be a great game to watch. I hate saying it, the neutrals love it. So How do you see the game going? And what are the key things that could influence the outcome? Where do you see the main battles being?
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Paul: Well, it's going to be a defense versus attack by the looks of things, but I think what I've found this season is what will influence the game, unfortunately, is the shocking standard of refereeing, because I don't know if you found it, in the National League it is woeful, the officiating, And instead of letting the game go, it just depends who we get on the day because we've had some good ones, we've had some absolute shockers and they're either very good or very, very bad. There's no middle ground. And I think that what will really get it
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Paul: for us is that probably 1 of our weaknesses is our midfield from a defensive point of view because it's like no man's land, it's like the Somme sometimes, there's no 1 there. We're either too deep in front of our defence or we're too far in advance. So whoever wins that midfield battle, I think will be the successor on the day. But as I say, if you like venture forward and attacking, we do try and hit teams on the break as well. So it's going to be really,
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Paul: I
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Paul: think it'd be really close and I'm looking forward to it. I'm actually aware but I'll be listening to it from
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Paul: when
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Paul: I'm away listening to it. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it because we played for a screen, we beat them and they are a very, very good side. We seem to play better against the bigger sides. It's like the teams like a Halifax or an Old Chingamoo like rubbish, we seem to struggle against them, be quite laboured, like solid old Beatles 3-2. And we had about 9 chances in that game. We should have put them away. It should have been 5-6-1 by our time. But again, it is what it is. All the shot Beatles 4-1 earlier
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Paul: in the season, but it was 2-1 up until like the 90th minute, and we just went for it and tried to get the goal and they became it was on the break. So we're not, we are defensive and negative, but he wants to win games rather than play fancy football. But yesterday, 4-1 at our time, I couldn't believe it. We were outstanding against Halifax. But we had the look of the FA Cup on our side. It was a dodgy own goal. But yeah, I think it's just building that confidence that a win's a win and to
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Paul: be fair where we were under David Hunsworth and before that we were in a very bad place and as I say he got rid of a lot of players because we've got 2 managers worth of signings where he's had to get rid of him. He's brought his own players in. He probably needs 1 more transfer window to click it and get it right. But again, we haven't seen the likes of Jack Streatton, but we have got Kjell Drummond up front for us, who's on loan from Chesterfield and oh my goodness me he is outstanding. Yesterday he
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Paul: was unplayable for about 20 minutes and his pace and his skill and his press and everything about him. He started off at Warrington Rylands and went to Macclesfield and Chesterfield signed him from Macclesfield. He's going to be some player in there, I hope we can keep hold of him and Chesterfield go up so we can keep hold of him because he'd be an absolutely outstanding signing.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Beautiful, right well to finish off it's gonna be likely to be the bonus headline thing in the program. What's the score prediction? Oh I know.
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Paul: Every time I do this I get it wrong. So I'm going to say, I'm going to, you know what? I think it'll be quite high score. I think it's going to be 3 all.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): 3 free, oh that's a good 1 for the neutrals.
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Paul: Yeah, yeah.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I hate that.
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Paul: It's going to be a 3 all or an Oldham last minute win. Fair
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): enough. Perfect. Well, thank you so much, Dave. Sorry, sexy Dave.
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Paul: Thank you.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): And we are looking forward to the match and thanks for your thoughts. And I may have mentioned, but it should be in the program so everyone will see your free free predictions so don't worry yes don't worry
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Paul: that's best to look for the season but when you play autumn I wish you the worst of luck
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): absolutely same to you guys
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Paul: cheers mate
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): right I'll put that in post so you're not going to answer any questions about what he said but he was saying that they've had a bit of a good-ish season so far he was expecting to have a bit of a poorer season and all his other podcast mates were saying a good 1 so he's delighted to be wrong And he gave us a couple of names for Danger Men, including the well-known front drop. So how do you see the game going? I mean, he said basically their defense is great. Their attack, okay, but their midfield can
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): be quite poor, but depends on the day. So Sarah, I mean, have you bought a head to it at all? Or are you just like me rock up and go, yeah, we're playing?
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Sarah: Yeah, both. I mean, I thought about it a bit and then I thought, well, I haven't seen Oldham play for so long. It seems like a long time. It's not that long, but you know, the last time I saw them, they were both in a different division. So I keep thinking that like our first our first home game in the EFL was against them and they beat us.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): I have to put trigger warning at the start of this episode because I brought up the was honest penalty you brought up the old and beating us in like the 88th and 89th minute or something.
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Sarah: I know that as well. They did worse. I'm sure they're much better now.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): They had a lot of new signings, he said, and they're doing a lot better lately. The current managers had to get rid of 2 previous managers, players, start bringing his own in and get rid of a lot yeah exactly he said I mean did make me wonder if some he said oh we need to probably at least 1 or 2 more transfer windows before maybe managers should be doing that on their contracts be saying that I don't worry about it years I want this many transfer windows before you start judging me. Good idea. But Paul, what
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): do you, have you looked at it, have you considered it or again you're just gonna let Steve decide?
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Paul: Yeah I mean I sometimes get a bit stuttered when I come on here, don't I, and I read up a bit but I haven't had a chance for this 1. So, no, I don't know. I don't know a huge amount of them. I've not really seen where they are in the league or how they're doing. I think, I think I
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Paul: read that They did win
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Paul: yesterday, but I don't know.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): They did very well yesterday against Halifax. Yeah. Yeah. But
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Paul: I think. No, so I don't know what to expect from them, to be honest.
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): What he was saying is he started supporting the mid-90s when they were in the Premier League. And he said, 30 years of misery. And we were joking about something else about the whole 4-1-up and he said we thought we still mess it up and I was like oh yeah we like that and he goes at least you've had things to cheer about, we've had nothing, literally just relegations for 30 years. But we obviously aren't going to be part of the leaderboard because I can't share my screen apparently but Paul you were 1 of 9 3-1 predictions
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): yesterday and we did have someone with the first goal scorer. So Andy Rudge got all the points and is 1 of the only 3 people to have done that so far. So it's definitely harder this year. But yeah, if you want to join in, do join in. The tweets go out every week before games and the email goes out at random times before games as well, so I haven't quite worked that out. But we're going to start with some predictions. Paul, as always, this is an early prediction. You don't have to stick with this and you
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): are getting into the habit of doing it after the team lineup has been announced, which is very, very sensible. But what's your early prediction on this game? That guy went with three-three, by
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Paul: the way. Really?
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Yeah. Well,
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Paul: he says they're good defensively not so good going forward we're good going forward not so good at the back yeah he's probably he might not be far wrong let's go 3 2 then okay to us
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): Sarah what about yourself
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Sarah: really really boring go for 2-1 because it just doesn't feel... I mean, any game where you feel like it's going to be full of gold, it never is, is it?
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): 2-1 is not boring. 2-1 is a very sensible, predictable, nice scoreline. It doesn't happen very often.
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Sarah: How often does it get you? I've won
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): in 60 odd games.
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Paul: And
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): now I feel like I can't predict 2-1 ever again. I'm going to go with a free 1 to us obviously and I will put Josh as first gold corer. Why not? But we're gonna wrap up this episode and you guys gonna have to watch or listen to hear what the Oldham fan said, so that's at least 2 listeners. Woohoo! And thank you all for listening. We appreciate your attention and feedback. Get involved in the Know Me, Know You segment. Tell us what traditions you'd like to start or revive. I mean any tradition can start at any
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): point because it's just something we can carry on doing from now on. But yeah follow, like, share this episode and certain podcasts, chuck me the thumbs up and the little hearts because I like them so much. Subscribe, leave me some reviews and we are back on Sunday after the Oldham match with Neil and Harry and as always we'd like to thank our sponsors Lucky Sargin and a big thank you to the panel today Paul and Sarah. I will obviously after Monday be probably looking for some more victims for the second round. So we'll see where that
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Sutton Podcast (Mike): brings us as well. But hope you've enjoyed the episode. Take care. Goodbye and we'll see you soon. Bye bye.
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