In this episode of Sutton United Talk Time, host Mike reunites with panellists Paul and Paul to review a memorable face-off against Birmingham City. They also look ahead to Sutton United’s next match against Rochdale, with the same excitement (and maybe a dash of apprehension). The episode brings out the team's dedication, camaraderie, and tactical finesse as we dive into the highs and lows of the Birmingham match and look forward to Rochdale’s visit.
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Sutton Podcast: Hello and Welcome to another episode of Sutton United Talk Time and podcast. I'm not sure why I clapped my hands when I said that, but it's a Sutton podcast in association with Lucky Star Jean. I'm your host, Mike, and with me on our panel today, we have Paul and Paul. In this episode, we are going to talk about the visit of Birmingham and all that brought the circus, and we're going to talk and look forward to the visit of Rochdale. After the last time we went to Rochdale I'm not really sure what look forward is the
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Sutton Podcast: term that we should use but that's what I'm gonna say. Obviously love hearing from you, the engagement, all the shares, likes, comments, please keep it up, it really does help other people suffer as well. Guys, it's been a while for you charmers, how have you been? Not a while, I'm not talking about ages but how have you been since your last 1?
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Paul C: Yeah I mean what's it been, 3 weeks?
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah I think Paul's only 2 weeks so...
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Paul C: Okay, Tom, it's been ages for me then. Yeah yeah. I'm good mate yeah It's been a bit of a mad day today but yeah.
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Sutton Podcast: I'm good. Well that's what happens when you claim a Sunday quote. Yeah. Expect to have a little bit of a rest but you don't. How Mr Darby, how are you?
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Paul D: I'm good mate yeah although I picked up a footy injury 2 weeks ago so I'm out injured. I really should stop playing this stupid game and retire gracefully. Proper old man's injury as well. Just move slightly and pull the muscle. Yeah,
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Sutton Podcast: that'll do it. How did you get injured? Well I did my shoelaces up.
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Paul C: I'm off the physio tomorrow for a game of shoulder so.
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Sutton Podcast: It's your bad show. I don't even have,
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Sutton Podcast: I don't have a bad knee anymore, I've
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Sutton Podcast: just got bad and worse. That's how it works. The Knowing Me, Knowing You segment is going to come in and I just wanted to ask you guys, it's an odd 1 that you got thrown up there. Have you made any friends through your support of the team and how did it happen? So the jingle is coming in now.
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Speaker 4: Join me, join me, there's something we can do, join me, join me, yes, ,
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Sutton Podcast: Mr Darby, we'll start with you. Have you made any friends from the sport of the team and how did it happen?
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Paul D: I mean, it's a brave man who says he's made some friends. I'll leave them to judge whether my friend
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Paul C: or not.
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Paul D: But yeah, so yeah, so I mean, I grew up in the area. So it's been really nice way to see people from school that I hadn't seen for ages. So occasionally bumping to people I've been to school with, which is nice. People through the pod, definitely through Santa Lata people I've never met before but through the pod I have. Other means it's quite funny of so I remember a shout out to Rob and me and Rob walk our dogs and then 1 day we realized we were both wearing Sutton United socks So now we occasionally have
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Paul D: a pint and in fact, we've got the games together and stuff. So that was a nice way of meeting people. And I have brought people to games as well. So in fact, I was there with 2 Chelsea scumbags yesterday and dragged them to the game. So yeah, no, it's proper community club, isn't it? And I think with crowd size is just a nice size that you can you'll always have someone to speak to their Stuff like that. So yeah, I like to cause many of them friends
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Sutton Podcast: perfect Charmers Dare you call them friends? Associates, I think. No, acquaintances.
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Paul C: Yeah, no, I mean, I've been coming for a few years. I guess I have a few friends who who frequents the football club. I think I saw something on Facebook the other day that there's I think it's Dan, me and Dan, not that I use it hugely anymore. I think we've got some like 100 mutual friends. So most of those are probably football related, not necessarily all sudden, but you know. So yeah, now I've made some lifelong friends from the club and you know, I met my first wife at the club. For my sins.
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Sutton Podcast: And there was a few people at your wedding. Yeah. But tell us, because I do remember you went driving with Dan. I mean that was cut short because child couldn't wait but
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Paul C: yeah 6 weeks premature yeah what was that?
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Sutton Podcast: Tell us about the driving that it was Kazakhstan was it?
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Paul C: Yeah so 2009 I'm sure there'll be plenty of people rolling their eyes at this 1. But 2009, yeah, myself, Dan and Gareth Miller drove a car from London to Mongolia. It was an 847cc Provojnipa. Malaysian, I don't know how to describe it, but it was made of, it was almost an armored car to be fair, soon as I managed to drive it off the road at 1 point, which they like to remind people of falling asleep at the wheel. And supposedly there was only 2 of us asleep in the car at the time Dan who was
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Paul C: sitting in the back was supposed to be awake but yeah I got as far as Kazakhstan and my first born was born very prematurely so I found out I was a dad for the first time sitting in the back of a taxi on the right of the airport in in southwest Kazakhstan.
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Sutton Podcast: I think there is there is a written version of this whole journey somewhere probably yeah yeah ask Dan about it, I'm sure he'll like to dig that up. So we'd love to hear your answers and I've met loads of people so I wouldn't like to as Paul said as Starby said I wouldn't like to say friends but
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Speaker 4: I
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Sutton Podcast: leave them judged by but there is 1 thing or 2 things actually on where you mentioned about a podcast, Paul. Firstly, I spoke to Steve Salis, I sent everyone a message early today and he was being very complimentary and he said about the podcast, he goes, 1 thing I really like is you don't have Wally's on as guests
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Speaker 4: and he
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Sutton Podcast: did emphasize guests. So I was like, okay. But yeah, he was very impressed and I think what he meant was From what he said was he's been people don't just go the ranty shouty. This is awful But they they back up any criticisms and they back up what they're saying as well So and thank you all for that and I was in 1 of the loos and I don't know who it was, but I think you were both in the fan zone and there was a couple other people we've been on in the fan zone and
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Sutton Podcast: as I was in the loo I had 2 guys going in, oh yeah I recognise that guy he's been on the podcast a few times and I kind of just ducked my head down and finished and ran out before they started talking to me. I don't want to talk to people in the toilet, thank you. But yeah, let us know your stories and any friends you made through the Sporting of Southern United and any interesting stories about it as well. The ladies won yesterday. My whole day was thrown out. I'm sure we'll discuss this in a
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Sutton Podcast: minute, of it being Sunday, but I didn't even remember they were playing yesterday until I saw the full-time result. They won free 1, and also they have a new sponsor, which is PJ Demolition Consultancy, I think. I did write it down, but I've forgotten where I've put it. So I will just double check that, get it right because it's only fair to get it absolutely right. Yes, PJ Foley demolition consultancy, so I did get it wrong, sorry. But yeah, thank you for their support of the team. Podcast news I'm not sure if I mentioned the press
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Sutton Podcast: conference I don't know if I brought it up at all did you guys did I tell you guys that I was on the press conference? So yeah, that was fun. Don't roll your eyes, it doesn't make for good podcasts. So, on to the match. It was a bit odd. The whole kind of thing was a bit strange. How did you guys cope with the odd kickoff time and the early start and playing on a Sunday? Chalmers, we'll start with you.
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Paul C: Yeah, I mean, I've still got, I got in a pub for 10 o'clock, no, 10.30. So, I went and had a couple of pints before the game, which is probably more than I'd normally have to be fair. I'd normally probably drive up and I got dropped off by the wife, so that was handy. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I had a couple of pints beforehand and met the usual lot and went into the sun and then just had a stroll in so the timing wasn't a problem. Yeah, oh sorry.
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Sutton Podcast: That's a good gig.
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Paul C: Yeah, and yeah, I mean it was obviously very busy, wasn't it? I was we got into the ground at about 10 to 12, I think it was. And then we stood in the fan zone area, as you said. And I was like, I should probably go in and find a spot to stand, you know. And Gareth went off with cigarettes, so we all sort of hung about chatting. And then we finally went in and it was jammed in the behind the goal there, wasn't it? So we ended up standing in a in a different spot. Similar
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Paul C: spot at the front of that same section that we'd normally be outside. That was a bit, that was a bit different. I'm used to being a bit higher up but still, yeah, it was it was
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Speaker 4: all good. It was good to see a good crowd good atmosphere
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Paul C: youngsters making a bit of noise yeah see their new flag as well
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Sutton Podcast: yeah oh they're arms their poor arms must have ached yeah
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Paul C: You're ruining 1 of my good band funnies.
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Sutton Podcast: Oh, sorry. Okay
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Speaker 4: What
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Sutton Podcast: was your take on the early kickoff on tv and playing on a sunday Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it was
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Paul D: a bit of a show I wanted to make a bit of a day of it and do the older get down the cafe in the morning and do All that kind of stuff But I did have them I was at other things on the Sunday morning So I didn't get there until actually for me because I do get there quite early usually for a pint or so So I didn't get there till about I don't know quarter quarter quarter to 1 quarter 12 quarter 12 so So yeah, but like you guys I was a quick 1
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Paul D: in the fan zone and then thought I better go and get a spot early so so I did but I'm normally on the just to the right, of the goal But I was a bit further to the right this time this time around in fact, and next to you mike in the end
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Sutton Podcast: Yes
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Speaker 4: But it
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Paul D: was nice to get up there. I got there for about 12. But it was nice to see the, you know, it's nice to see the old TV interviewing going on and the lights and the, and all the cameras up and stuff like that, which gave it a little bit of a bit of a bar so that was all that was that was fun and and as you say the the youth making some an effort with the the banner and stuff like that just gave it a sense of sense of occasion didn't it so that was yeah
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Paul D: got the old juices going
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Sutton Podcast: yeah well I got burly we discovered that the cafes aren't open that early on a Sunday. In fact, some cafes aren't open on a Sunday at all. So I had to go for breakfast at Greg's and I was there at sort of nine-ish and bleary-eyed and everything. And it was then that the daughter kind of pointed out to me I didn't actually have to walk her to work at 10 o'clock I could have gone at any time now you tell me after a full breakfast but yeah we got there nice and early there was no way
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Sutton Podcast: I was drinking at 10 o'clock in the morning, I'm sorry. I think I waited until half 11. I'm not doing this. But I'd lost partying around seeing different people. I snuck on and took a little video with the Emirates sign behind me. Made a bit of use of my little media badge and wandered in other little places. But yeah, it was good and the new sponsors thing looked great. Didn't look so great from the dugout, but it looked great otherwise because if you're sitting in the dugout you couldn't actually see anything at all. So that's why
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Sutton Podcast: they're standing. That's right, the lineups and Birmingham did go strong and we actually had almost a full squad to choose from. There was pretty much a lot of the players had become fit, obviously not Jacko, Lewis and I think I saw Harry warming up, not warming up, doing some stuff on the side so he can't be that far away but he wasn't available for selection. What were your guys thoughts on the lineup and how did you think it was going to go? What was your head and heart saying? Charmers, we'll start with you.
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Paul C: Yeah, I was quite happy with our line-up. It looked from the start, it looked like we were going to play through at the back, which we did. I was a little bit worried about their line-up as you say. They were very strong. We were comparing, as soon as the line-up came out, we got their line-up in their last league game up. And I think it was some 7 or 8 of the players who played against Mansfield, I think it was, were starting. So my thoughts were, oh my God, we're going to get battered. So yeah, that
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Paul C: was my initial concern to my initial thoughts. I'm a bit of a pessimist.
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Sutton Podcast: Tiny bit, yeah. Paul, what did you think of your...
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Paul D: Yeah, similar. I mean, you know, the name came out of the hat, it was all very exciting, wasn't it? And then suddenly it dawned on us that actually they're a bit good. And at the time, I think we felt as though it might have come too early for us, that this is a new group of players with a new manager still finding their feet a little bit, still a bit inconsistent, still inexperienced of course, and shipping a few goals that they improved the last few games. So it was a little bit of awareness. And then you
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Paul D: start reading up on Birmingham a little bit and then it was that whole piece about them outspending Man City and 15 million on Stansfield, the under 21 guy and and that kind of thing and then you think it'll blind me and then that line-up come out and I went the guy on the Birmingham Forum who just wrote, Davis chooses violence,
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Speaker 4: which
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Paul D: obviously imply that we're in for an absolute pummeling and the next 20 posts are all about them beating us 5670. And to be honest, I was thinking it could well be. But as I say, I saw our line up, you know, there wasn't many injuries or concerns there. Simper, I think, was a miss, it was a bit of a shame he wasn't there. And you could sort of see what our game plan might be early on. But yeah, I think it was, let's just enjoy the day and and the moment but I absolutely saw us get
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Paul D: the shlacking to be honest.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah my private thought was anything less than 3-0 or less, I would be taking it as a victory. So it's sort of 1 goal for each division and the fact they were at the top of the division, I was like, okay, anything less than that, I'm happy. So I was delighted. So as to the game, I have watched it back, partly to see how ITV portrayed us because I'm always a little bit nosy thinking, where we go, where we go, what are they going to say about us? 1 thing that stood out for me is some
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Sutton Podcast: of the things that we thought, Paul, we were standing there thinking like Jack Sims, there was a moment where like, Jack take your time, blah blah blah, roll off another 2 minutes or so, weren't that long at all. Even the penalty, it was like the ninth minute. I was sure it was later into the half. Not the penalty, the penalty shout. I was sure it was later into the half. So, you know, there's a lot of things that we were watching, just going, oh, God, how long, how long, how long. And it was a lot quicker
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Sutton Podcast: than I thought. But Paul Darby, we'll start with you. What did you make of and have you watch back and revise your decision the early penalty shout?
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Paul D: So that's the 1 they had with about 3 feet in the area. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was definitely in the area wasn't it I mean we could we thought it was where we were we had a terrible view so we thought it was initially I thought actually was it a penalty or a free kick at all but I've had I've had another look at it and I think the view that persuaded me it was a free kick or penalty whatever you choose Was the pitch side view angle of it? And I think for me, I
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Paul D: think it was I think it was and it was clearly a penalty But then's the break sir
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Sutton Podcast: Chalmers did you what did you think at the time and have you watched back and revised your decision?
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Paul C: Yeah, I wasn't sure at the time. It did look like it was in the box. That something had happened. He went over in the box and they were protesting quite a bit. So I wasn't 100%. But yeah, I've watched some of it back as well. I fast forwarded to a lot of it. But I'm not sure what they saw for a free kick what I think it was anything outside the box I could have justified a free kick
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Sutton Podcast: I think I've got it because I think Dan said it when I retweeted going he looked bad in the ground but it looks worse now and also Sivvi got booked and was like, hang on, how did you mix up Charlie Waller who did the foul with Sivvi?
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Paul C: Wasn't it a bit later he got the book in? I didn't think he got
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Speaker 4: the book in
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Sutton Podcast: at that point. No, he got the book in then. Because what it was is actually before the penalty chance, him and their winger were having a real battle, their winger got past him and he pulled the bat and the ref played advantage and then when he didn't get the ball properly he then score back for the penalty a foul. I think it probably would have been clearer if the referee had made it not just outside the penalty area but
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Paul D: a little bit further back
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Sutton Podcast: because people would have been like, well hang on, that must be for something different. I think he tried to make it clear by putting the card up to Sivy, but I think the Birmingham players were complaining because they're like well hang on if you're playing the advantage
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Speaker 4: the
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Sutton Podcast: ball dropped to Stansfield who then slaughtered it home or surely a penalty is a bit of an advantage to the free kick I mean I can't understand why so I still don't know why he didn't give or allow the advantage but as you said earlier Paul, dims the brakes. But what did you think of our performance channels? I mean certainly first half very disciplined, we were not getting drawn out, there were a lot of times and they were just passing the ball backwards and forwards hoping to draw us out and we just weren't doing it so
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Sutton Podcast: what did you think of that at the time?
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Paul C: Yeah I mean I thought we were a few times I thought our defense was sitting quite high and our midfield was sitting quite deep so it was all really tight and really congested they almost didn't want to we didn't want to let them get in between us and try and and try and break through so I was quite happy yeah I was quite impressed with the discipline I was quite impressed with the discipline. I was quite impressed with the way we were playing it at that point. I thought it was a case of, I don't know
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Paul C: if hang on is the right word, but just try and neutralise the game a little bit and try and give ourselves a chance later in the game. Don't lose the game before we've had a chance to win the game.
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Speaker 4: Paul?
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Paul D: Yeah, we were really compact, weren't we? Choke the game, looked really organized. I mean, just looked absolutely, everyone looked like they knew what they were up to knew what the job was defended really well and execute the plan well to use management speak I think I thought we did what we wanted to do it's just that we gave ourselves there was no out really was there so we get
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Speaker 4: there
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Paul D: was no options there was no option So out it came and as the game was going on, it seemed like we were getting a bit deeper and deeper. But yeah, I mean, it's, you know, that's a league 1 team with some big money players in there and we've we've Given them Arthur Smith. Have we really yeah apart from a girl, of course, but we have limited their chances
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, It did make me think of a possible rule change for the FA Cup, make it liven up a bit, 1 extra player per division between you, so we could have had 2 extra players. That would liven things up
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Paul D: wouldn't it?
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Sutton Podcast: It's an up and down mate. Why not?
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Paul C: They make up rules as they go along. Why can't they? Well, you're saying about no outlet going forward though. Davis was having ended up pulling so deep as well, didn't he? Is there only a honeymoon up front really? Here and I've
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Paul D: come so
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Paul C: deep that when we cleared the ball, it just came
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Speaker 4: back again. Yeah. I'm not sure. I didn't look at what the possession stats were that first half but
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Paul C: I don't I don't
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Sutton Podcast: I think or out of top of my head it was 70 something I'm
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Paul D: not sure overall was it I don't know what it
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Speaker 4: was first
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Sutton Podcast: half so yeah it was it was a definite yeah they had the ball yeah we got to see it every round then but oh I'm gonna go with Paul and Charmers by the way rather than Paul. So Paul, the guy who scored had a wayward shot about 10 minutes beforehand. I don't know if you saw the club's Twitter. I think I showed you actually. Of the legend has it, it's still rising and then 10 minutes later he scores a scruffy goal, so it's all great. But it was a scruffy goal, it was 1 that they're going
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Sutton Podcast: to be a bit disappointed with, it wasn't sort of worldly or anything like that. How were you feeling at that point? Were you a bit grieved? I mean, Jack Sims, if you watched the replay, he was fuming with himself. But Paul, what do you think?
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Paul D: Yeah, it was, yeah, yeah, it's come over, isn't it? An early cross, I think,
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Sutton Podcast: 1 of the few times
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Paul D: they did an early cross. And he's scuffed. I don't know whether scoff is it is a bit harsh. I don't want to wear these flicked it or skimmed it or yeah but yeah Anna and and it's interesting you said that it seems he was angry. I wonder whether he felt or whether he could have done better with it I think that's a bit, you know, I only he will know because what it looked like because he did he made such a good effort to get there, and then it looked like it, I don't know held up
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Paul D: in the grass or something ironically as they thought we didn't cut the grass to our advantage but I wonder whether he thought he had a good chance of getting off it but but answer your but your point it's like okay here we go the flood like floodgates might open here but but no they did they carried on the game plan and as it remained so it was disappointing when it went in and the way it went in and you don't mind if it's actually say just a proper Lee Wang classy goal but it's something that we
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Paul D: might, they look back on and thought might have done better with.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah I did hear that he was asking could he, should he have done better and everyone's like Jack just leave it, it's 1 of those things, you can't say anything. Charles, what did you think? Did you think it was a scruffy goal? Come on, be on my side.
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Paul C: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was, wasn't it? It was really. I mean, I don't know if we, did we switch off a little bit?
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Sutton Podcast: It was a throw-in. And I think we'd switched off their player being off some head but obviously it was
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Speaker 4: a throw-in. He had a
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Paul C: bit of time to have a look what he was doing with it so yeah Jack wasn't in any in the wrong I wouldn't have said in any way. I think he had a pretty good game for what he had to do. He didn't have a huge amount to do really, did he?
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Sutton Podcast: Yes, Steve said that and then again I've the bear keeper.
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Paul C: The goal was all about being clinical, wasn't it? You know, they get a chance, they take 1, you know, so we weren't giving them a huge amount of chances. They were shooting a bit from distance. I had a few they blasted well nowhere near the goal, didn't they? 2 or 3 before the goal. So, yeah, clinical scoring when they needed to. Yeah, and then did a job.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, it was 1 of those things of all as you hear it was kind of doing that spinning thing. Yeah, always just outreach. You know, when you're trying to run after a crisp packet down the road or something It's just he's blowing
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Paul C: did he get a hand
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Paul D: on it. I wonder whether you got a hand on it.
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Sutton Podcast: I Don't think he did I'm not I'm not I'm not But then last bit in the first half we had a couple of chances. Jadon, if it'd been critical, he kind of ran to the left rather than going straight towards goal. I'm wondering was he expecting some help coming up alongside him as well. But obviously he had a great shot and it just went wide. I haven't seen an angle from behind the goal there but it looked good and close from where we were certainly. And then Vaz had a penalty shout. Have either of you watched
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Sutton Podcast: that 1 back as well? And do you have opinions? So first of all, Charmas, I'll go with you. What do you think of Harris' shot and the penalty shout?
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Paul C: Yeah, as he was going through, I thought he's done well to get onto it and I was hoping he might get away from defenders but they were getting close and he had to hit it, didn't he? I think he rushed a little bit because there were 2 of them after him, wasn't there? And yeah, he put it wide, you know, 1 of those things. But Edinho's chance, I think, yeah, he had his touch that maybe wasn't the best. And the ball was getting to the goalkeeper and he thought, see what I can get here. And he
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Paul C: went down like a sack of spuds didn't he?
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Sutton Podcast: I think you've been harsh on that 1 but I'll tell you why I say. Paul, what was your thoughts on the chance and the penalty?
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Paul D: Yeah, the chances, you know, we were only going to get a few, weren't we? And it was a nice touch getting past the man, but in the next touch, he took him wide and it was a, it wasn't a great touch, which took him wide, which then dictated the rest of it really. He didn't get the body shape, couldn't get the body shape right, could he, to take the shot, but even so still got close with it. But yeah, that was a that was a big chance for us. And I have looked to a few times,
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Paul D: it was actually a bit further away than I thought it was actually, where we were at the other end, it looked proper close, didn't it? And by by where he hit the boards, actually, I thought he thought that was pretty tight but and and for the and for the pen oh yeah I mean but I thought it was a thought it was a bit soft not as soft as the 1 later on but I I thought it was a bit soft.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, I so I think it was Lee Dixon might have said it Was it Karen Carney? I can't remember it It wasn't a dive as some suggested what it was is he was running through, and as you said, his touch took it away. So he was kind of expecting that defender to be there. So he kind of leant into the defender to shield himself. The defender wasn't there.
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Speaker 4: So he went, ah! And he just went
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Sutton Podcast: to the whole delgour in the bar. So yeah, he didn't call for it. But it is, I mean, as we were looking on straight onto it, the referee would have had a similar view to us. And it did look like something must have happened. So it's very easy to go, oh, obviously there's something there, but you'd hope lines would help them out. Yeah I don't think it was a I don't think it was an attempt to win a penalty I think he was literally just trying to block the other player Rob.
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Paul D: Yeah yeah.
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Sutton Podcast: The other player wasn't there. But we reached half time. I'm gonna whiz through some of this because it was pretty much more of the same. They're attacking, we're defending, we're holding the ball. Then it kind of got to that sort of 70 minute mark, 75 minutes, we made some subs, changed the formation. Do you feel, and it's reasons I'm asking this, do you feel we went for it enough at that point? Paul, we'll have your opinion first on that.
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Paul D: For a binary answer, I'm going to say no. You want to leave that ground with no regrets, do you? And you threw everything at it and you leave that pitch thinking you gave it everything. And we played some fantastic discipline defensive football, but there's a point where you've got to go out and go and score and I thought we just could have been a bit braver a bit earlier that's all I thought you know I thought it was a great it was a great performance by well some great things from the manager and a great performance
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Paul D: by the team for what they were trying to do, but just I thought we could have broken out a bit earlier to give ourselves a bit more of a chance. And bearing in mind as well, it would have been extra time as well. So, you know, it was time to, I think we should have gone for it earlier.
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Sutton Podcast: Javis, what do you think?
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Paul C: Yeah, I have to agree. Yeah, I think we should have, you know, 75 minutes maybe released the shackles a little bit and pushed on a little bit more. Yeah, a bit disappointing that we didn't, as Paul has said, but we, I wonder if morale was a thing, you know, if we'd let in sort of 2 or 3 late goals with the morale of a young team, the effect is, was it more a thought of, you know, let's have a solid performance, you know, we, we, I didn't make the brain through game, but I hear we were
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Paul C: relatively solid for the brain through game when we were playing theatre back then as well. So I think it was trying to, maybe trying to continue a continuation of that to take forward into the, back into the league campaign.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, well I think in my very limited opinion We did try and go for it but the legs just weren't there for some of the players because they were doing an awful lot of, even though they didn't have the ball there wasn't any marauding attacks, they were doing a lot of running in short bursts. So I know some of them had just come on and the Dylan foul was really interesting. That was just a bizarre thing. I don't know if you remember it, where he was coming down the left, our right as he was coming towards
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Sutton Podcast: us and their bloke literally took him out and the ref gave a throw on. He didn't give a free kick, he gave a throw on. It was like okay if it was a throw on, Dylan kicked it. The guy didn't go anywhere near the ball, the guy just took out Dylan and so if it's a throw we give it to them. So yeah that's another odd 1. But yeah I did hear lots of people and it's 1 of the things I was going to talk about afterwards but Paul you've just touched on it, sorry Charles touched
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Sutton Podcast: on it there with the confidence thing. I heard an awful lot of people saying I would have rather have lost 456, nil than that and I'm like no way, if we'd lost 6 nil you'd have people going that's utter tripe blah blah blah. I don't agree with that. I do think if we'd gone for it and considered another goal, it wouldn't have mattered. You could have gone oh well, 1-0, 2-0, doesn't make a difference but there is always the chance of even in the last 10 minutes, suddenly 2, 3 goals being scored, you're in for a
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Sutton Podcast: battering. But yeah, I think Jovan Mackennauf actually said it, I wonder if the players are gonna be could we have done could we've done anymore I genuinely don't think so I mean we don't know how good the goalkeeper is, I expect he's very good. So we didn't test him that well. I mean we had a couple chances towards the end. Nadesan had a great chance and just... It was
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Paul C: an awkward height though, wasn't it? It wasn't a good height for him to get decent purchase.
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Sutton Podcast: He had more time than he thought or would have expected. I mean, we, you've both played much more than I ever have. But when the ball arrives, you don't expect to be able to go oh let me just have a look around so I can take this down and then do what I want with it and you're not going to get that so you probably didn't realize he had as much time as he did but that's not a criticism that's just why would he expect to have that? And then Jadon, as you said Paul, that last
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Sutton Podcast: ditch penalty which Steve said anywhere else on the pitch that's a free kick. I think he had a different view to it, maybe he was blocked by the holdings I don't know. Do you think Jadon could have stayed on his feet? Should have stayed on his feet?
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Paul D: Yeah we had a decent view of it didn't we and I think yeah it was a bit annoying really that he did go down and actually someone mentioned that he might have been leaning into the player and then the player wasn't there so he did actually fall over but I think But there was someone in the box and actually he'd beaten his man and to the point because he actually got the crossover on the floor As well to some extent didn't he but yeah, I thought that the decision-making on that was could have been better but
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Paul D: it's
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Speaker 4: yeah it's
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Paul D: in the moment isn't it and and to your point and to your point they might be knackered
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Sutton Podcast: yeah I mean you could again it's the speed of thought you can't do all this that you could think well if you had stayed on your feet you got the ball chances are you would have been fouled. I think again he went in expecting a bit of a shoulder. Yeah I think so yeah. It wasn't there so he went down as well. Charmas what did you think of that like shout for a penalty?
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Paul C: Yeah I don't remember it that well to be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. I think so. I don't think I thought it was a penalty from what I remember. I didn't think it was a penalty. We'll be lucky to get that. But I mean the referee did make some strange decisions so maybe maybe there was a little bit of optimism but
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Sutton Podcast: yeah the decisions were both ways I mean I know we always look and go oh that's terrible from our point of view but it was both ways he was just yeah odd decision-making or even on the their penalty potentially if it was for the earlier foul, it might have been the right decision but the way he was conveying it was just very confusing to everyone. But we'll see. Anyway, I think it's going to be a confidence boost. I think some of the players might regret the performance they did because Steve and Anthony and the rest might
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Sutton Podcast: say, well, you can see what you did against Birmingham. So now that's the expectation I have for your defensive work every week. So that's the bar now guys, you've got to stick to it. Do you think the players would have learned a lot and in your opinion should they be proud of themselves? Charmas will start with you.
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Paul C: Proud of themselves? Yeah, I mean we've got to take the positives from it. Going forward, we've got to be positive, haven't we? We need to see. It's no good looking at any negatives, or if only we'd done this too much, if only we'd done that, you know. But being positive, Yeah, we have kept some very good quality players quiet in the main. We've given them a huge amount of chances as before. And defensively, it's something that has needed to improve this season. And in the last 2 games, we have been defensively a lot more solid. So
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Paul C: going forward, if we can keep up that salinity and, you know, Will Davies has scored a few goals,
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Speaker 4: Josh has scored a few goals.
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Paul C: Only you score more than the opposition, don't you? Yeah, I do. So, there's hope. There is definitely some positivity in it. And I think, yeah, they should be proud of the, I think of the job that Steve asked them to do they've they've they've produced they've produced on the game plan And I think that's that's What they've got to be proud of yeah,
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Sutton Podcast: yeah
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Paul D: Yeah, I can't add to that really exactly what Paul said yeah they executed that game plan I mean how much they would have to use that game plan forward is a different matter isn't it but I can show that they can defend against and play like they did against a good quality opposition I should absolutely take confidence from that and take it into the league form. Yeah, yeah, I mean it wasn't long ago, I think the game that sticks out for me was the Oldham game where we lost 3-1 didn't we at home and just some
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Paul D: real awful defensive, yeah, just 3 headers in the box and just it was awful and actually the last few games that's that's all tightened up and you can see it click in and And that will be an absolute yeah, a real confidence booster. I think they should they should be proud of themselves. Absolutely
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, the
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Paul C: 3 at the back. I thought worked quite well. Sorry, Mike. I thought the 3 at the back worked quite well. We did go to 4 at the back last 10-15, didn't we?
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Speaker 4: But the 3
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Paul C: at the back worked well, and Alex Kirk was just controlling everything, wasn't he? He does look good. I'm really impressed with what we've seen from him.
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Sutton Podcast: He's quiet but efficient. Charlie had a good game. I did wonder with the going for it could we have not just went no we're sticking with 3 at the back but we're going to push Josh
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Paul D: yeah
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Sutton Podcast: and go 3 at 5 across the middle but yeah I would have liked to watch football
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Paul D: I mean they did they did the homework on Josh as well didn't they they knew he was our danger man and he didn't have much space and when he did get the ball there was 2 or 3 of them right on
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Speaker 4: him So I
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Paul D: think he battled well.
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Sutton Podcast: I think 1 thing Birmingham will regret quite a lot for the rest of the season is the amount of complaints that they had about the grass. He's just telling every other team in League 1 that if you grow your grass along Birmingham can't play on long grass. Why would you make such a fuss over that? But anyway, we're going to go and finish this 1 and we're going to talk about the Paul, what was good for you? All good. The whole day on the pitch, whatever you want
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Paul D: to choose. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The good was, I think we'll go with the overall defensive performance.
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Sutton Podcast: Perfect, Charles?
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Paul C: Yeah, I think that's what I was going to say. No, I was thinking of something. I guess having the crowd was good, the numbers were good, and the atmosphere, I'll say. Yeah, it was a good atmosphere, and yeah, credit to the youngsters again for helping to create that.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah 1 thing on that is when I watched it back on the telly it was nowhere near as loud as I thought it would be because the bit where he took a guy with the the ball and he walked past the football to go and get the ball with the fire and to waste that bit of time. Everyone was going absolutely lunatic. Everyone watched it on the TV and was like, what? There's no noise at all. Anyone would think there was no 1 there. But yeah, what was bad for you, Jaws?
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Paul C: Probably what we've been saying about, yeah, we didn't quite go for it at the end. It'd be nice to have pushed on a little bit and had him a bit more worried in the last 10, 15, yeah.
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Sutton Podcast: So regrets you're gonna go with. Paul what was your bad?
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Paul D: The length of our grass is disgraceful. It should be banned. I'm gonna give the Birmingham fans a bit of stick. I thought the quietest fans that we've seen they're down there for ages And I appreciate well, I appreciate they down there in the first place fair place that's going, you know It was a 07:00 star and the trains rups found all that jazz. It's a 1230 kickoff and and now they got it and they're stuck on the curva and so they but I thought they were really cool and you know it's not a massive game for
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Paul D: them I just thought I thought they were really quiet
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Speaker 4: which is
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Paul D: a bit of a big club
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Sutton Podcast: especially as they could yesterday the curve but I to cover terraces as well so I was expecting a lot more from them. I'm glad they didn't because yeah made things difficult but and Sharmas what was bad for you? I've just got that sorry yeah sorry Paul sorry what was funny for you in the day? Can't be Mike cocking up again.
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Paul D: You mentioned it right at the start, Mike. It did make me chuckle with the, because you took a video of it, didn't you, with the electronic boards and the restricted view that the dugouts had. I mean, it was a proper restricted
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Sutton Podcast: view.
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Paul D: So that made me chuckle. We'd earn a few quid and thought, well managers don't need to see anything.
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Sutton Podcast: I think it was more likely that the company that you come into with were professionals and we didn't really bother checking what they were doing because they know what they're doing and it's only I think when someone sat, it was Anthony actually that sat down and he went to me, Mike go sit in there in the dugout, I went no
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Speaker 4: I don't want to do
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Sutton Podcast: it, go sit in the dugout and I went and went oh shit. Sharmus what was funny for you?
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Paul C: Yeah mine was the with the lads holding the flag, there was there was 1 guy who was a little bit short than the others and he looked like he was trying to stretch himself. So yeah, he was, he had to let go.
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Speaker 4: I think he,
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Paul C: at 1 point he let go and he tried to gee up the crowd a little bit and give his arms a rest. So that got me a little chuckle on myself.
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Sutton Podcast: I think lessons learned there, what they need to do is go inside and get the little fogged up stools so they can all stand on the stools and hold it up themselves. But yeah, no, to be fair, the sign looked great and I think there's a video from the other side, because obviously we've already seen the back of it as a video from the other side and with the flags waving behind it and everything.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it
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Sutton Podcast: looks good. It looked really, really good. Not sure about the flare, but anyway, we'll move on. So we're going to look ahead to Rochdale, and we're going to now slot in the interview I had with Thomas from the All Dale Aren't We podcast. Okay so now on to the most important match of the season, the next 1 as Steve always says. We're gonna move away from Birmingham, we don't want to talk about them anymore, and we're going to do our free Q preview. We're going to get insights and thoughts of our upcoming opponents, and today we're
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Sutton Podcast: joined by Thomas, who supports Rochdale, and he's the host of All Dale Aren't We podcast. So Thomas, thanks for joining us. Tell us a little bit about yourself and the podcast first of all, how long have you been supporting Rochdale? What's your, what's your backstory?
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, so a bit of a late bloomer to football really wasn't really something I was massively interested in when I was like young, young, I think like moving into high school and stuff, I started getting quite a keen interest. Obviously my dad's massively into football so it was always on and about in the house there but yeah when I got to that age and I think everyone I was kind of meeting was more into football so then I started building into football and then pretty much from there really I just got hooked going to Rochdale. Yeah
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Sutton Podcast: from that's probably from about 2010-ish around that time I'd been to a few games prior but yeah that's what my love built for it and then I've just kind of been constantly going ever since. And then I think it was just at the start, well I think it was probably midway through the COVID season that I just felt like it was something to do, something constructive to do to be able to talk about the games and what was going on. I think I probably missed that buzz of seeing my friends and my pals on a match
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Sutton Podcast: day and being able to talk about football. So yeah, just started building it up from there and started going. I mean, it has been a while since I've actually done some stuff on mine, but hopefully it'll be getting back into that pretty soon. But yeah, that's my whole premise behind why I wanted to do it.
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Sutton Podcast: Lovely, it is 1 of my regrets that I didn't think of doing that during the Covid season especially as we had such a great Covid season got promoted. So in the area that you're in, you decided to go for the most glory hunting team that you could think of.
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Sutton Podcast: Oh, absolutely.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, nothing but joy ever since. So so far the season, What were your expectations for Rochdale? How did that pan out to everyone else's expectations? And how's the season compared so far?
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Sutton Podcast: I'd probably say we're about where I'd expect us to be. Obviously, I don't know how much has been covered about our financial situation over the past few years, but we've been obviously at risk of a hostile takeover. It was very much touch and go last season, whether the club was going to liquidate, if we didn't find investment. We did with the Ogden family, originally from Rochdale, got a bit of money behind them and they've come and invested but they wanted to do it in the right way not just pumping money at it for the sake of
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Sutton Podcast: it trying to build the infrastructure of the club up and everything around it I don't know there was a there was a report the other day that they'd put out that they offered the offices spaces for the independent regulator to come in. So we're trying to try and do everything they can to, you know, build up that credibility. But yeah, no, the recruitment we've had has been good. It's not been outstandingly good, but it's been it's been better. And it's probably where about I'd expect us to be. We're not of the budgets of the likes of
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Sutton Podcast: Oldham and the teams there. We're probably a grade down from that. But it's been an interesting season. I mean, weirdly enough, most of the games I've actually gone to this season, they've not been great, but we've actually had quite a decent season so far, apart from obviously the result on the weekend, which left me a bit high rate. But yeah, probably all in all, we're probably just about where I expect us to be.
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Sutton Podcast: Fair enough. And from the squad, what do you see as the main strengths and weaknesses, that's concentrated on the weaknesses at this point in the season? Are there any players that we should be looking out for?
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Sutton Podcast: Yes, obviously our key players, Ryan East in the midfield, are really shrewd by last season. I was actually shocked that we managed to get him from Bradford. He's been an integral part of the midfield ever since he's been here, really keeps things ticking over and he's got an eye for a forward pass. Kyro Mitchell has really come into his own this season, I think he's up there with 1 of the league's top scorers. He's been putting in some good numbers, he's gone a bit off the boil recently in the past few matchdays but he's always a
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Sutton Podcast: threat and we're just I think we're just going for a little bit of a slump at the moment a few injuries have caught up with us we brought to bring a couple of players in on loan to kind of cover yeah I think I probably say our weaknesses probably our biggest weaknesses we were trying to do what everybody does now. We're trying to play that systematic football to the death. And obviously, at this level, as I'm sure you're aware, you don't always have the personnel to be doing it. But obviously, we are insistent on playing that
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Sutton Podcast: way and I think sometimes it can be our biggest downfall that we will just give away cheap goals from playing like that. I mean I don't know I've not watched Sutton for a little while and I don't mean to sound it in a bad way but is it still quite a Route 1 kind of... No no
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Sutton Podcast: we've done the same yeah yeah lots of passes and lots of shouts on the sidelines get it forward!
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Sutton Podcast: But no listen when we have all of our personnel fit, we've been able to play that system quite well. I just think there has to be some tinkering and adjustment at the moment because we're a little bit out of form. It's not all the lining as it has been doing up to now. And I think sometimes you've just got to have a bit of a second, a bit of a plan B at points then just constantly stick to your guns. I could be wrong, I could be very wrong, but sometimes it can be slightly infuriating to
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Sutton Podcast: watch.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, yeah, we know. So with a similar style then it sounds like how do you see the match going against Sutton? What are the main sort of factors? Is it gonna be tippy-tappy football away or do you think 1 of the teams is gonna crack and just go right and just
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Sutton Podcast: lump it? I think it'll be tippy-tappy all the way. I mean, I don't know how the game's going to pan out so much. Most of the teams that I've seen come up to Dale this season that have managed to get a positive result have almost sat back off us and allowed us to make those mistakes, allowed us to catch it on the break. But if you've got the same similar style of us and you want to go for it, I think it's got the makings of a good game if both teams are going for it. So
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Sutton Podcast: yeah, listen, I want to see an exciting contest. I want to see both teams going for it. I want to see plenty of goals and plenty of chances. I'm going to, I'm going to add on if you want a prediction as such. I'm going to just go for it. I'm going to say Dale might sneak it 2-1.
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Sutton Podcast: Okay, well 2-1 is better than we got up with your place last time the season you got relegated. I think
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Sutton Podcast: you were
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Sutton Podcast: already relegated and we got 4-2 battering. And also you were out for a little revenge as you said from the weekend for South London but you can't hold us responsible for Bromley, we don't even like that. So that's not our fault. Thomas, thank you so much. Guys, go listen to the All Down Aren't We podcast when you get some new stuff on there. Follow on Twitter. We're looking forward to a good match. I'm obviously not going to choose that score. I'm going to go with a different 1, but I'll let the guys know when I'm trying
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Sutton Podcast: to work it out. But thank you very much and take care. We'll see you soon. Good luck for most of the season Thank
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Sutton Podcast: you very much.
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Sutton Podcast: How are you guys looking forward to the Rochdale game? Considering the last time we're up there. I didn't actually check the league table. They're doing all right. They're not
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Paul D: doing all right
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Sutton Podcast: He seemed quite comfortable with what they're doing. So, Mr. Darby,
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Speaker 4: what are you expecting from
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Sutton Podcast: the game? How do you see it going? And what are you hoping for from the trip?
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Paul D: Yeah, us to kick on, absolutely. We've shown that we shouldn't be scared of anyone and we can take on any team in this league. Only slight concern is that the game might have taken so much out of us, because we've got a game tomorrow haven't we, but I assume we'll play the Rezzi's... Have we got the National League?
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Sutton Podcast: No, they've pushed that back.
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Paul D: Oh, they've moved it haven't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've moved it. So other than some tired legs, I'm thinking I've got high hopes for us. Yeah, I'm much better doing them Okay, but yeah Got some confidence for this 1
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Sutton Podcast: good good good and charmers were you at the last 1? You
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Paul C: got was yeah for the full wonder fee, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, I think yeah Yeah, I've never been so I went and yeah I didn't last the 90 minutes unfortunately it was at the end of a long season wasn't it?
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, I believe the rule was invoked wasn't it? Yeah I
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Paul C: think it was. Yeah yeah unfortunately. Yeah defensively I mean they conceded 4 against Bromley was it? Going out of the cup on Saturday? That was extra time. That's good. Didn't that?
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Sutton Podcast: Oh yeah. Tired them
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Paul C: out a bit. I think it was extra.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah.
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Paul C: So maybe I don't know a huge amount about them to be honest with you this what they've been doing. I've not really looked at a table or anything, so I don't know how good their home form is. But if they're scoring and also conceding, it could well be another high-scoring game.
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Sutton Podcast: Well, yeah, he said they're playing the type of football that all teams try and play now. Tippy tappy football and all the rest of it. I said, oh yeah, because he was thinking we still played the same direct football. I went, oh no, we kind of go in with that as well.
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Speaker 4: But
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Sutton Podcast: then he said something very interesting he said oh well okay that would be quite good as long as you're not going to try and hit us on the break or anything like that and I was like oh yeah you know we do that as well so yeah it could be 1 of those great games but he yeah he didn't he wasn't sure he's going for a win to them but we'd
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Paul D: all go for
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Sutton Podcast: a win for us.
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Paul C: You didn't expect it.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah I haven't updated the league this week and loads of people went for a certain loss no 1 went for a 1-0 loss but a couple people did have us lose to nil so they'll get some points for the goalscorer, lack of goalscorer. But do join in, it's on all the socials, I will bore you to death every week with the socials, I'm proud of my videos, I like making them and I feel like I'm a proper content creator. Early predictions, okay, same rules apply. You can enter as many times. You don't have to stick with
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Sutton Podcast: this prediction. You can try and bluff and double bluff each other. But Paul, what is your early prediction for the game?
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Paul D: Yeah, I've got to back my initial comment up, haven't I? I think, yeah, the risk that we might fall flat after that, sadly, but I think I'll go for a 2-1 win.
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Sutton Podcast: 2-1? Chalmers?
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Paul C: Yeah, pessimistic me a little bit. Makes me think it could be a 2-2.
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Paul D: 2-2?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm
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Sutton Podcast: going to go 0-2, so we win. 2-0. Yeah, we're going to keep clean sheet.
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Paul C: Are you changing your score every week now? Are you sticking to 2-0 until we
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Sutton Podcast: get a 2-0? No, no, no. I'm definitely trying not to get something like that. So, yeah, I've just decided 2-0. I don't know why it's not based in anything so it won't happen but thank you very much James and we are wrap up this episode of Sutton Podcast as always we appreciate everyone's attention and feedback get involved in the knowing me knowing you segment and Have you made any friends because of Something United and how did that come about? Follow, like, share this episode with something podcast, subscribe on all the channels, subscribe on YouTube with the
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Sutton Podcast: thumbs up. Yay. And next time we are back with Mark and George and we'll be talking all things Rochdale and looking forward to Maidenhead I want to say. So it might be, I can't remember. But as always, thank you to our sponsors Lucky Start Gin. Big thank you to my guests today, Paul and Paul. And thank you to everyone listening. Hope you've enjoyed this episode and take care. We will catch up soon. Bye bye.
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