What’s better than a win?
Nothing quite matches the feeling of cheering for your team as the final whistle blows, sealing another hard-earned victory. This week, we take a closer look at Sutton United's recent win against Maidenhead and preview the frosty clash with Halifax. With me, Mike, hosting solo guest Joe, we break down the highlights, the funny moments, and a lot more
00:58 - 01:28
Sutton Podcast: Hello and welcome to another episode of Sutton United Talk Time on the podcast. It's the Sutton podcast, an association with Lucky Sludgy. I'm your host Mike and with me on my panel today well I've got Joe that's the panel is Joe by himself and in this episode we're going to be covering the win against Macclesfield, Maiden Head even and we're going to look forward to the cash only likely to succumb to the weather trip to Halifax and we love hearing from you obviously I say this every week keep the engagement up keep the thumbs up going
01:28 - 01:41
Sutton Podcast: all these little like shares really really good and they help the algorithm get it in other people's faces so don't suffer alone. Joe I saw you yesterday, everyone saw you yesterday because your video bought me, but how have you been?
01:44 - 02:02
Joe: I know it's everyone's dream to have me as the only panelist so you're all lucky. Yeah I'm very good Mike, was on National League TV comms yesterday which was an enjoyable experience, been doing more stuff with the media team over the last few weeks. So yeah, been a good few weeks since I've been up.
02:02 - 02:37
Sutton Podcast: But excellent. Excellent. And so you didn't get the link earlier, but I'll ask you this question, the knowing me, knowing you question anyway. I've got a horrible feeling you might have said something similar last time you're on but the question is what's the best piece of advice you've ever had about being a football fan? So wearing 2 socks in winter, anything like that Just what's the best piece of rice that you can think of on the spot?
02:39 - 03:17
Joe: OK. Right. You know what? It's actually going to be from yesterday. I misjudged the weather completely, as I feel a lot of people did, for those who weren't at the game. It was very cold and saturn yesterday. When I say cold, it was surprisingly cold for... I mean, it is mid-November, but I don't know. It felt like it could be a start of January day. And the place where you do commentary from, the new gantry, unfortunately because we're up high, firstly it's colder. And secondly, there's like, there's a kind of a gap at the front and
03:17 - 03:42
Joe: the back of the gantry, so the wind is directed directly at your back. And me and Cameron, we could have been on Strictly Come Dancing that second half, because we were two-stepping, we were three-stepping, we were doing all the dances just trying to keep our limbs moving. And there was 1 point where I thought I'd take off my mic. Cameron just turned to me and said, if you hear that blowing, that's Joe just trying to keep his feet and his fingers on. Because I was like, my hand was going to be clear on the mic. So
03:42 - 03:51
Joe: my advice would be, if in doubt, bring an extra layer. This is my new rule, and I'm gonna stick to it. Well, we
03:51 - 04:01
Sutton Podcast: chatted briefly at the end of the match about this very thing of, it was a decision because obviously it's mid-November, if I start layering up too much, I've got nowhere to go for January, because I know it gets cold over there in January.
04:02 - 04:13
Joe: So we won't make it to Jaffa. We will get hyperthermia and then they'll be like, what happened to Germany? Tried the strategy of layering up individually. Never made it to December.
04:13 - 04:17
Sutton Podcast: The heated G-Lay is probably gonna get its way up, back out again. So you'll have
04:17 - 04:18
Joe: a nice little power pack.
04:18 - 04:53
Sutton Podcast: Oh, I need the heated G-Lay. Yeah, love it. Right, so give us your thoughts, best piece of advice for or from a football fan that you've ever heard. Let us know your thoughts. Club news it's really only the the ladies side they unfortunately lost to Epsley today 1-0 which isn't bad considering we didn't actually have a goalkeeper so whilst we lost it's not as bad as it could have been so well done to keep it safe ladies and there were chances to win that game as well. On to the game. So before the game, what were
04:54 - 05:04
Sutton Podcast: your expectations, what was your thoughts and were you worried about what kind of team we were actually going to put out with the injuries and international call-up?
05:05 - 05:39
Joe: Well, I think Jayden Harris is a very unfortunate injury, it's a big blow, but I saw the Jack Wardham recall from Worthing as a thing from Steve to say, look, he's gonna, I don't think you recall someone just to have them play back up. You have them to make a difference and Simpa's out and Simpa De Silva, Ransom was on the bench but then there's obviously, I don't think he's fully fit yet. Jaco's still making his way back. And then you've got a few others who I can't think of. Well, Edwin who went off last week
05:39 - 06:11
Joe: and all that. And because we've tinkered lots of different formations this season, I've thought for a while that we need to change something just just the way the balance because either we're too attacking where we're shedding space in the back or we're too defensive and we don't make there's too much of a gap between our back line and our forward line So I expected I think this 3 at the back works quite well and it's not even 3 at the back in essence because the 2 on the left and the right they push up and kind
06:11 - 06:41
Joe: of play just off the shoulders of kind of the wing back slash wingers So it ends up kind of being 1 at the back at all times with a flexibility, which is actually, it's still very attacking, Steve would want, but it gives us that defensive security. So I thought there would be a bit of a tactical change. I thought we were good at Rochdale, but I didn't go, I watched it back and I was like, there is still too much space where they could play. And I know that Rochdale are a better team than Mainped, but,
06:41 - 07:14
Joe: you know, we're going on to the game later. We've kind of, we seem to have dressed that slightly, but I thought the team, we're starting to find a team, a kind of base core of the team that Steve wants to play. Sims and goal Davies, Nadez and Kohli, Simi. And then it's all a little bit higgledy piggledy around that Tyler French as well. Yeah, and Charlie Waller, but then Kirk, Siege, Jack Wardham, There's kind of 4 positions who could go like, Kohli could come in. If Harris, when Simper's fit, I reckon Simper will be a shoe
07:14 - 07:39
Joe: in again because he was just so good. Pretty consistent at the start of the season. But that kind of attacking line, that Nadezhan, Davies, Kohli and Sivy, that seems pretty settled at the moment, which is nice to see. It means that when I'm looking for the lineup, I'm like, oh God, what could we have today? It's more like, okay, we'll have that threat on the flanks, we'll have that link up between Davies and Nathanson through the middle, it's just about who fits in around there. And I was pleasantly surprised by the team when it came out.
07:40 - 08:15
Sutton Podcast: Good. There's a couple bits there, some I was going to talk about later, but First 1 was a nice easy 1. Someone had mentioned how come we've got Dylan on an international call up and we don't get to call the game off for internationals. I think it's like 3 or 4 you need to be called up so that's not going to happen for a while. You mentioned the Rochdale game. I've had conversations, people talking at me, about how come we don't make a bigger thing about how well we're playing. And I was sent our goal from
08:16 - 08:45
Sutton Podcast: Rochdale. I know John Meany tweeted it and I retweeted it. And yeah, I described it last week. Well, I described it last week because obviously all I see is like the ball fired into Davis who shoots to the keeper saves it and rebounds out to Edwin and Edina and he scores And it's like that's all I've seen of the goal. It's like no no it's a 22 pass move. Now in fairness a lot of the passes I was saying yeah but everyone in the stands is going to be going get it forward, get it forward, no
08:45 - 08:51
Sutton Podcast: get it forward, get it forward. But it was beautiful, there was lots of lovely movement on the ball, off the ball, they're making space, they
08:51 - 08:51
Joe: were all
08:51 - 09:18
Sutton Podcast: confident. But what I was explaining is we don't see that. When you're passing the ball across the face of the goal to someone with a defender, with an attacker coming at them, you just see the panic, the pure, oh my God, what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen? So I think there's a little bit of, I think what we're seeing watching the game and what they're actually trying to do, because when you watch it back, knowing the score or something, you do get to notice a lot more about what's happened without the fear of how's this gonna
09:18 - 09:18
Sutton Podcast: score.
09:19 - 09:21
Joe: So it's a work in progress Michael.
09:21 - 09:53
Sutton Podcast: Shut up. I think that might have been my fault as well. But the first half, we were much more on the front foot. We obviously, as you said, Maidenhead aren't as strong as some of the teams we've played recently so we were much more lively we had chances I was taking a little mick out of Josh afterwards and because his daughter said he's gonna score 2 goals and he didn't and I said well what's that and he said well actually I should have scored about 3 so yeah you should not but then his daughter did chime
09:53 - 10:16
Sutton Podcast: in with something I wish I'd recorded and she's 6, 7 and she chimed in but we won. I was like oh my god I want that as a little voice note so I can play it when everyone's moaning. I can just go, but we won. But we won. But we won. But we won. But yeah, we had chances and we eventually took lead to a reasonable goal, would you say?
10:16 - 10:19
Joe: Nice goal. Again, it was again a really nicely worked goal and it was coming.
10:19 - 10:34
Sutton Podcast: Yeah, no, absolutely. You could see, you could definitely see that. You could definitely see it was much more attacking. How were you feeling? Were you feeling that we could have had 3 or 4 here or do you think we're going to ruin the chances?
10:34 - 11:07
Joe: I know because I think we actually looked a bit more threatening. I just don't think the ball was falling for us quite nicely and doing comms. I mean Cam are quite both obviously certain but we have to keep relatively impartial. But every time that ball came forward and I was on co-commentary, I was like, it's actually really nice football. And there wasn't a player on that pitch who I could say, Yeah, they're not adding to this. Sivvi looked like a threat down that left hand side. It took him a while to get into the game. A
11:07 - 11:40
Joe: lot of the movements coming from Fred Stokoli to Davies and then on that right hand channel. But once they started to get Wardham and Siege and then Sivvi into the game with Waller as well. That's when we started to look like we were going to score about 20th minute onwards and when Sivvy is, he's starting to, when he's on it, he's starting to remind me of David Adgerboy at points just because he takes on a player and he often gets past them. He's not a small and kind of tricky and you know, I think because he's
11:40 - 12:10
Joe: taller, I think David's more likely to get fouled. It's a bit like Stephen Duke McKenna, but he's strong is Jeremy Sivvy And that maybe is a good thing because it keeps the move alive. Whereas sometimes we could have got hacked. 1 of the most Steven or David would be get hacked out 1000. They would then the movement stop but you know, that's that turn of pace. It's not even like it can be a bit trickery but normally it's just slow things down and then the acceleration off just off a standing start is is where it's strong
12:10 - 12:31
Joe: and good ball in. Will Davis had a difficult first 15. There was a bit of an argument between him and Josh in the first 15 and I was trying to listen to what they were saying I just found that interesting because I thought we had a pretty good first 15 minutes but Will was like you've got to play it into my feet because he said I'm useless something along the lines of I can't get to the game unless you play it into me and I can flick it off and they started doing it and it worked.
12:32 - 13:02
Joe: But they were probably like, it wasn't like an angry thing, but it was like, we're not gonna do anything if we don't do this. And it was a good goal, he laid it off nicely and it was really good goal from, really well taken from Finlay. And he was excellent at first half, making things happen. They were, that midfield was probably the strongest I've seen them midfield since August. Really like, Sige so like playing that role that I'd watched highlights for him at Avonlea last season just so strong on the ball and just so composed. They're
13:02 - 13:29
Joe: important to see him as a bit a bit haphazard than losing it but just like just taking out Sivy, playing the ball into Will Davis. It was like, it was nice to watch. Jack Wardham was excellent, keeping that press up, along with Will and Ashley, playing in, like I was trying to figure out the formation. I said it was a 3-5-2 at first. And I was like, it's actually closer to a 3-4-2-1 because Wardham and Nadezhan playing off the shoulder of Will Davis. Then it ended up being a 4-3-4-3-1 going forward. But those 2 could actually
13:29 - 13:58
Joe: drop back and get involved. And actually, what I found interesting, we'll talk about the penalty shot in a minute, I'm sure it's queued up. But when defending, Nadezhan and Davies switch, because I don't know why they do that, but Will Davies goes back to help the defensive effort and Nadezhan's the lone man up top. Maybe that's because Nadej Zanin and Josh are quicker. If there's a ball that goes forward, who do you want chasing it? Will Davies or Josh Coley? Probably Josh Coley. And who's more likely to get past someone? Josh Coley.
13:58 - 14:00
Sutton Podcast: It's probably because they sent him back because he's younger.
14:01 - 14:29
Joe: You did the right thing. I've been here for a year. You've got to get seniority. No, it was a really good performance and the goal was very much deserved. I'm sure what I've said, but it could have been to a 3. When the ball came in from the free kick, it came to him a bit suddenly, but you've got to get it on target. Josh is shot from just inside the area. Literally, I reckon if you just hit it either side of the keeper, you're getting a palm to Ashley or Will, but if you hit it
14:29 - 14:42
Joe: straight and low, and it just meant the keeper could get it to safety. But it was a well-earned goal. Finlay was excellent. And yeah, I'd hoped that we might get another before half time, but it woke up for about 5 minutes after it.
14:43 - 15:10
Sutton Podcast: Well, yeah, this is 1 of the other things. It's obviously people react to the scores. People react to the full-time result. But I think a lot of people forget there's another team out there who are also trying to win the game and stop us doing things so it's like we're not gonna get everything our own way because there's other people out there trying to stop us from doing this. You mentioned the penalty, talk us through your view of it because you would have had a better view than me. The possible permanent penalty.
15:10 - 15:10
Joe: For them
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Sutton Podcast: or for us?
15:12 - 15:41
Joe: For us. For us, so the Nader Zaman, it wasn't a penalty. It wasn't a penalty. It looked like it and I can see from how the home end it would have looked so more, it was very light, very soft and it's because clearly from Ashley it's exactly what a striker should do in that situation because he was going, he was forced out wide and he'd have to do a pretty amazing finish, either chip it over the keeper or go around him to try and get there somewhere. It is a touch, but it's nothing. It's nothing, the
15:41 - 16:08
Joe: warrant's it. And then the other end, the other end, I'll be honest, the other end I was slight, I didn't say yes. And initially I was like, that's gonna be a pendant. So I was, So I was camera and I was like But then I realized it is shoulder to shoulder. I think we're was just a bigger guy compared to their their their left back and Their left back is quite small Younger quite a lot lighter and more taste is a beefy set of all And I think it just made it look worse. And the main
16:08 - 16:10
Joe: head fans were very unhappy. And then there was
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Sutton Podcast: that whole board. Well, no, you
16:12 - 16:17
Joe: didn't notice. I just couldn't believe it. And for all the, and I'm sure there's very few
16:17 - 16:17
Sutton Podcast: of it,
16:17 - 16:47
Joe: for all the, I was going to say I follow, for all the National League TV design viewers, mine and Cameron's suggestion of the guy with the tabard and the high vis coming on to pitch with a camera, no, it wasn't coming on for a camera, it was to deal with the maidenhead fans and their dislike of the bald, bald being important in this moment, of the assistant on that side. We were dead confused because there was literally no communication. The referee didn't make it clear what he was going on because he went up when you go
16:47 - 16:59
Joe: over to talk to a referee it looks like you're consulting whether it's a penalty and we found out 3 minutes later when we saw him coming over we were like because you don't have the club president coming across the pitch for
16:59 - 17:34
Sutton Podcast: a penalty. He's the safety officer as well so yeah yeah So that's why he was in that role. So it's not just device. But he yeah, so we'll talk about a bit. Because I've had a bit of conversation with a couple of different people. And they said that the club overreacted by sending extra people. So we didn't, the referee spoke to the linesman. And yeah, like you, we were like, that definitely wasn't a penalty. They're not, they're surely not calling it back for that penalty a minute ago or whatever. But then when the referee goes over
17:34 - 18:05
Sutton Podcast: to talk to the bench to get the head steward, I think Lyle was acting it today, and the safety officer saying okay this is what's happened. Then that's the point where you then have to go get more people involved. And yeah, it then came out that apparently this is I think what the Maidenhead fans were saying, as all they did is called him a ball-crosser. But you then wonder, hang on, is that it? Because I saw that you guys are saying it was, but I think he's probably heard something completely different then.
18:06 - 18:30
Joe: I wouldn't be surprised. Obviously, I said this to you yesterday, but there was some lovely scenes in the halftime break where we were watching just some people having a try to, try to fight the police outside because they got let down. There were some considerable discussions with a large portion of about 60, 70, maybe even had fans surrounding stewards talking to them and it was just very odd.
18:31 - 18:59
Sutton Podcast: I mean even if it was just that phrase because obviously I'm both for those things but you'd expect especially if you're a linesman you'd have heard it before it's not going to be the first time you've ever heard that and so I can't imagine him actually doing it for that I can't imagine the referee going right well we'll stop the game and we'll get someone over to do it so I'm thinking there was something else or what the lines were thinking he heard was something else and then the referee might have for something else and so
18:59 - 19:32
Sutton Podcast: on and so on but yeah you're quite right it was a bit mad But then when you get other people escalating it by charging over, they're like, no, we did was this and the other. I've said it many times. If I'm standing here, I can probably hear 34 people around me. I'm not going to hear what someone said Way over there because there's too much other stuff going on. So, but who knows and Right, so second half Steve said we kind of went off a little bit A lot of people have said it As I alluded
19:32 - 19:47
Sutton Podcast: earlier, I didn't ever think we were in actual imminent danger. I thought we were quite controlled of the game and I did think that maybe if they did start to come back into it, we had another step up as well. But what were you feeling in that second half?
19:47 - 20:19
Joe: Yeah, you said it exactly as I thought. I never thought they were particularly threatening. I thought we'd taken the game into a lower gear. And I think we could have asserted our dominance on it a little bit more. But the way they changed the game, they tried to make it more... We slowed it down, they were trying to speed us up, and I think... We didn't use many subs, and I think we got a little bit tired, but I don't think we made mistakes. We were alright. We could have had another... Like, there wasn't many chances,
20:19 - 20:43
Joe: but going forward we didn't look terrible. To get out of the back we didn't look bad. Jack Simms had very little to do. It just, I think it was literally 2 years ago to this day We played a game against Rochdale at home and Will Randall scored from a corner and It reminded me of that game midway through the second half because I remember it was just a cold day that day and it Was enough it was such a bad second half. They scored, we scored the first half and literally nothing happened They didn't look threatening,
20:43 - 21:07
Joe: they didn't look threatening, the game was petered out and it just seemed like that they didn't they tried to kind of huff and puff and didn't have much success and we were pretty happy just to you know come forward but you know there wasn't much conviction with that and you know that's something to work on but the passing was still nice we've seen pretty comfortable pit stop start no problem it's a win's a win
21:07 - 21:31
Sutton Podcast: yeah but we won and So Steve kind of was saying that maybe we had too much control of the game and that was part of the reason we kind of felt okay we can relax a little bit. You mentioned Finlay, he got Man of the Match, did make me laugh because I've seen him there with his Man of the Match award and I'm thinking are you allowed to drink yet? I'm not entirely sure if he's 18. I don't know, obviously
21:32 - 21:32
Joe: I don't know
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Sutton Podcast: how old you are. So,
21:35 - 21:36
Joe: he's 19.
21:36 - 22:12
Sutton Podcast: Oh, okay then, that's fine then, he can have it. But Steve made an also a couple other points. The thing about the work in progress, I think was possibly because we, I saw it elsewhere, so it's gone elsewhere, but people brought up the fact of it okay we've been together for a while now we need to stop talking about a new group but yeah I was I was reminded in my conversations that yes we're trying to do different things we're changing not just the the players we change the style of football we're changing the whole sort
22:12 - 22:35
Sutton Podcast: of ethos of the club, so things are going to go a little bit slower. You mentioned them both earlier and he mentioned them as well, Josh and Jeremy playing in slightly different positions to what they used to but then saying if it works as we expect it to work, they're basically playing as wingers anyway. But what do you think about they sort of? Attacking wing back
22:36 - 23:02
Joe: and I'm gonna my my person people here. I'm gonna say Go back a year ago today and think of the football. We were playing I think of the Josh Cody we had We may be in another league but we were sat bottom of league 2 by miles with not even 10 points in the award. Now I know it's, and then I wouldn't argue there's much difference between league 2 and national league, maybe types of clubs and stuff like that, I don't think there's much difference in quality of football. There are some very good teams in the
23:02 - 23:31
Joe: national league, Forest Green, York, we both come up against. And to get a 2-1 loss and a 2-2 draw, you know, Forest Green on another day, Clive Innesworth, same with York. We didn't play badly. The games we lost, like Boston and Dakinham, I think they're the only reason they're games. Boston, you know, they haven't had a great time since then. I think they've only won once since we played them. If not, they haven't won at all. So I think we've had our bit of our struggles. We're playing nice football and the Josh Coney from last season,
23:33 - 24:03
Joe: Matt, the way he played, he wanted his wingers to play the way that Jeremy and Josh play now. And that's what Will Randall and David and Enzio all did 2 years prior. Amari and Josh weren't those players. They were offensively minded players. Steve Morrison's revolutionized Josh Coley's style of play and it has to, I have to say it because I, you know, I'm not 1 to give loads of managers credit. I'm very much a fan from a fan point of view but he's leaps and bounds but so much more versatile and so much more confident in
24:03 - 24:38
Joe: the way he plays. I had people last year, Josh, like Josh Coley, I don't know why he keeps getting into game time. Without him in the team, there's no spark down there right now. He is a backbone of that team, he's critical and you know, Steve stuck with him. We saw it in Flashley in the last season. That goalie got cross-grained. The game against Swindon. We've seen excellent moments from him. And now it's consistently week in, week out. He's causing problems. And he's defensively sound. He's playing. And they're meant to play as wingers. Against Birmingham, Jeremy
24:38 - 24:41
Joe: Sivvy and Josh Coley, Sivvy was mainly playing as a left wing back.
24:41 - 24:42
Sutton Podcast: Yeah, he
24:42 - 25:15
Joe: had his work cut out. He was using that physicality Josh is a scrappy player. He will he will get involved in those physical battles. Yesterday they didn't have much to do. They were very happy and what ended up happening if we were going back is Charlie and Tyler just dropped back, Kirk a little bit further back, and then it would be that Sij and even Jack Wardham, even playing as an attacking midfielder position would drop back and then you still have Sivy and Cole on the wide positions but in some games they're going to have to
25:16 - 25:43
Joe: play as a deep role because you're going to have better teams, the main head, Halifax if the game goes ahead, will be 1 of those. But you know, the game after that, Solihull Moors at home, Solihull are a good team. I know they put 6 past Epsomite yesterday and Epsomite aren't really, you know, the standard yet, but they are a good team. There's a reason they were 1 kick away from, from league 2 last season, and they only got picked by the team who shall not be named. But they, they'll be a good team, they'll be
25:43 - 26:15
Joe: interesting to see, because in the game against Braintree, they played further up, Birmingham, they struck back a bit, Rochdale, they pushed a bit further up, and Rochdale were better, and we got about a bit of an effective goal. It's excellent to see them both start to feel comfortable and it's clear that there are 2 starting wingers. Dylan I have a feeling is now is looking at an impact sub role. And even I think he could be a potential Jack Wardham kind of player playing as that attacking role. But he'd be like he said, we'll take Sivian
26:16 - 26:18
Joe: Coley off. I look to kick them off every day.
26:18 - 26:18
Sutton Podcast: Yeah.
26:18 - 26:49
Joe: And that will likely be for Nana and for, for Nana and for Dylan. But, you know, Charlie Waller pushed up and played left back, played with Jeremy Plain. He was excellent. He was pretty good. And he's an attacking mind of player. And the whole point is that, you said it, the ethos, we're playing attacking football, not playing who fell out long to Harry Smith and hope someone finds is on the end of it, you know, we're playing football which creates chances, not the hope and chances or capitalising on mistakes. There weren't many mistakes in that maidenhead
26:49 - 27:02
Joe: team yesterday. There weren't many missed passes. The good football came from us rather than us capitalising on errors and that's, I think, and this might be an outrage to take, that game against Ultringham sold us a little bit of false hope.
27:02 - 27:12
Sutton Podcast: Do you know what? I literally thought that. I thought, yes, how can I word this? That the Ultron game is probably the worst thing that we could have done at that point of the season.
27:12 - 27:13
Joe: Especially for the fan base.
27:14 - 27:26
Sutton Podcast: Yeah, if we scrapped it 1-0, it would have been a lot better than an absolute hounding because expectations went from room or shorter. I said we're gonna win the league, win the Champions League, put us in the World Cup, we'll win that as well.
27:27 - 27:39
Joe: That Wieldstone game was a barometer. Mike Alviera, I remember that game, he was on fire, He was causing problems for our defence. It was a scrappy goal from Charlie Wilder, but we ground out the win. It's a hard place to go away
27:39 - 27:40
Sutton Podcast: from home.
27:40 - 28:10
Joe: And Altrincham would die on that day. They're ahead of us in the table now. They were awful. All the goals, penalty mistake, Josh Coley pass out, Jane Harris press, Jane Harris press to get the Will Davies goal and then the only goal which I can confidently say was from like an actual really good bit of play was that it says in the second half, really good ball in really good, really good like marked by 2 players, the other 4 were all 3 mistakes. And actually, that maidenhead result is 1 of our best, although the second half
28:10 - 28:37
Joe: wasn't enthralling and we weren't as good in the first half. That first half of Spormans is 1 of the best we've had this season. That York performance, we didn't get 3 points, brilliant, Volksgrin, we were pretty good. They were just better. And we've just got to realise that I think, and this is even for me to say this, and I know people have been longer fans than I have, we are, to be like, we're in 11th in the National League, it's not bad. No. It's really quite good. And this young squad, this fit young squad, the
28:37 - 28:45
Joe: game's getting faster and faster. That will come into our advantage. And we'll start to look towards those player places. We're not far off 4 points. That's all it is. And then you're there.
28:46 - 29:18
Sutton Podcast: We're having what some people are describing as it's a bad season it's terrible we're really inconsistent and we're 11th so it's like okay well if we're doing that when you think we're playing badly just imagine when it does click because I've been saying for a while after Christmas it's gonna be an amazing run but Maidenhead you've said it a couple times and it's been said that they didn't offer much and they didn't even have a shot on target I saw 1 person say and I was like don't we get a little bit of credit for that
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Sutton Podcast: ourselves because we didn't let them do much. You've mentioned the midfield pressing them down. You've mentioned everyone dropping back when they needed to. So yeah, they didn't have a shot on target. We stopped them from doing it. They might be a limited side. I don't know. I've not seen enough of them. But we didn't let them play. But yeah, I mean, it is difficult because obviously you get frustrated if the result doesn't go your way. Sorry when you're like, oh, it's the worst in the world. But we have to kind of respect that, as you said.
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Sutton Podcast: Love Matt Bitz, totally different character to Steve. But then the football, totally different character as well. And you can come away from some games going, OK, we lost, but I enjoyed that. The Birmingham game, we went toe to toe with the championship side. They've been in the league 1 now. Well, they're championship quality. Yeah, absolutely. They're over 30 million in the summer. I'm 15 ish million on 1 player I'm not entirely sure we spent 15 million pounds on players in our entire existence. So it's like, okay, let's, let's get some perspective here. We've done really, really
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Sutton Podcast: well.
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Joe: And I think if we spent 10 million on players in our entire existence, but The pitch we played on was 2 mil. So, what's that, 2 over 15, something like that. Something ridiculous.
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Sutton Podcast: Oh, and the grass was too long. Let's not forget that. Let's not forget the grass was too long. But yeah, it always could be better. There's no point in ever saying, right, that's the most complete performance ever. And again, talking to Jon before the game, it's like, if every single player on our team did every single thing right all of the time they wouldn't be playing for Sutton united because no player can do it right all the time. You've got decisions to make, split decisions. I've pretended to play left back and right back and as the
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Sutton Podcast: ball's coming towards me I think, oh I should go this way or this way or that. Oh, fuck it. He's gone past me. So it's like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. And these guys are doing it all the time, split decisions. So yeah, I really genuinely think we're going to go on a big run. And I think a lot of these players do need the support. And I think clear that people said that. And there was a fly. That's why I waved my hand across. And Steve said something and again, you don't really
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Sutton Podcast: think it, it's a bit of a funny thing to sing and all the rest of it but how shit must you be because we're willing at home and he said I could do without that because how's that supporting the players yeah I mean I get it's a bit of a laugh and a bit jokey going oh you must be rubbish But I do get his point off, get that in the bin. We're supposed to be here supporting the players, not saying, oh, we're shit, we're all shit. What's your take on that?
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Joe: I agree. Yeah, I agree completely. I don't want to give time to the people who sing it, Because I know there are people who aren't a fan of Steve, there are people who love Steve, I know there's lots of different opinions on the way we play, players, the manager, the club, the way the direction is happening. I Honestly, frankly, at this point, I don't care. I care about the club going forward and playing good football, the players enjoying the football and being proud to represent the club that we love. And as a fan base being united
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Joe: in the fact we want our club to do well. And if we get a win, it's a win. If we score a goal, it's a goal. It's not a goal. It's not a win. Oh, but we only scored 1, but we scored 1. They scored 0. It doesn't matter. Man City win a treble. How many games do they play? And they're like, oh, they're going to score loads today. And it's like Bournemouth at home. They're thinking of putting an early card and scores a goal in the fourth minute. No more goals.
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Sutton Podcast: It's played all around. Does it matter?
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Joe: But no, City and they're like, oh, you care about money, money, money. Yeah. They made the money work. Man United of the money. Trust in the money. It doesn't matter. It's just that they're all supporting their club and I don't want to hear. No, I didn't hear the charm during the commentary, but I just, I'm like, just to support the team.
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Sutton Podcast: It's an old thing, it's supporting. There are certain things like we love the, just a small club from, Pub team from Surrey because that's mocking the other team were going you're the same division as us Okay, Bradford love mocking them because I think they're a great club and they were in the same division of us
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Joe: Swindon yeah, yeah
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, so okay. You might be saying we're shit, but you are in the same division as us, so what does that make you? But yeah, there was, I was gonna have 1 more thing. Oh, the event after the game, I didn't see you in it. Yeah, Supporters Trust and Sporters Club did a combined event. I hope people enjoyed it. There's a big difference between the 2. The sports club obviously do like the coaches, sports trusts have slightly different things. It's worth being a member of both. I was doing some calculations, I still can't work it out
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Sutton Podcast: because it's a 5 pound a year membership for the sports for us for 140 pound lifetime And I'm sitting there going oh, I'm 50 now. Let's just let's just do this calculation 5 pound a year 5 pound a year, so we 28 years. So
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Joe: He's cold
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Sutton Podcast: he's cold evening it would be 28 years so I've got to
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Joe: think about it. These cold evenings watching Stamton will keep you along going.
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Sutton Podcast: But yeah it was great and then the players came in, Steve came in, the coaches came in, there was a lot of interaction between people. My favourite I'll probably tell you in a second, because we're gonna move on to the good, bad, and funny. But there was just a great, great evening, and people made lots of time to talk to everyone. It was funny that Steve was there saying hello, and he was up on the stage and they kind of just said oh now we're gonna hear some words from Steve Morrison They handed him a microphone
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Sutton Podcast: he was like A question would have been nice So they just held the microphone to speak. So that was amusing. But yeah, it was great and so well done to everyone who organised that. So, the good, the bad and the funny. What was good for
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Joe: you? What
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Sutton Podcast: was good for you?
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Joe: John Meaney going over to the sides at the end. He really milked that for all his work. I like him a lot. I think he's, you know, as much as Steve Morrison can be
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Sutton Podcast: a divisive figure, he just seemed
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Joe: like a really happy guy. And he just like the anti, the kind of mix between the kind of rough cut kind of Steve Morrison, the really smiley, heads early to everyone, Mac Gray's like the middle, He's got that in him, but he's also got the showman in him, which is quite nice.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, he's not always a happy, nice guy.
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Joe: Oh
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Sutton Podcast: no! He was 1 of the conversations and it started with, I'm riled Mike, I'm riled! And I'm like, oh man, I should never have answered the phone. But no, he's a diamond. He's felt, not pressure, that's the wrong word, but he has felt that the team isn't getting enough credit. And a lot of the things I've been saying today is from the conversation with him going, actually, yeah, I didn't think about it like that because we think that the players are just there to rock up and play and we don't really think about how they're taking
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Sutton Podcast: it when people are doing those chants or putting things out on social media saying some of those shit or we play rubbish. So yeah, he is a dumb side. I enjoyed that as well. But my good was the football was very impressive in that first half. So the bad, I'm going to steal the behaviour of the mainhead fans. Obviously, don't know what sparked it, but there was no need for it to escalate. It could easily have just went... I mean, if they'd left it as it was and 2 people got thrown out by all that security
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Sutton Podcast: and stewards they could quite rightly say that was a bit excessive but then if they're all getting involved it's like well it's not excessive anymore because you've all now got involved it was actually the right thing so yeah that's gonna go with my bad what's yours?
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Joe: I'm actually having quite a good day so I'm trying to think I feel like all my bads are travel related so I'm going to keep it going. No, it was cold. All the
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Sutton Podcast: trains got cancelled. No, no,
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Joe: no, no, no, no, no, because as much as the cold was bad, it was character-y. So it's part of the experience. I feel like if it was a hot summer, I prefer the winter matches to summer matches anyway. I think they're bad. All the trains got canceled and I had to go on a really long winded route home involving at least 14 minutes of the district line.
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Sutton Podcast: Ooh, nice. Nice. And What was your funny about the day?
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Joe: Me and Cameron on cons at a 2 minute conversation on the style of clothing Steve Morrison wears. I think that was quite enjoyable. Cause I was weird. I, what, hang on. What do you mean?
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Sutton Podcast: It was
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Joe: who? Well, hang on. I said, I could do with investigate an arson vengar style coat. And I said, do you think Steve Morrison would ever wear a coat like that? And the camera's like, I'm not sure. He always looks like he's on the verge of summer or like the white shoes the sweater but it never looks cold and I was like what's Alan Devonshire wearing in a flat cap? I said are we just being a bit complaining and he's not actually that cold and camera was like because nothing was happening but they were just punt the
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Joe: ball forward and backwards and then Cameron was like no no no Joe is actually under like 6 degrees so we have we have right and then we realized someone was attacking it and Cameron was like oh sorry coming forward Back to the game and we were like, I was just musing about the weather for a good 2 minutes. That's the best bit about giving co-commentary. I love it because you don't actually have to say things but I just like, Kevin was doing some nice bit of analysis and I tripped in and I was like on two-second
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Joe: pause, I was like, I need an arson-begging style carrot. I'm just like, let's make
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Sutton Podcast: this interesting. Let's move on there. Yeah, Steve, I mentioned his trainers for the Birmingham match. I saw him and I said, oh, brand new shiny trainers. And he went, no, they're the same ones I've always had how does he keep his trainers so brilliantly white? It's just
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Joe: he must take them off he must take them off! They're cleaning! You must take them off! The other thing is John the analyst so he was up with he was up in the
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Sutton Podcast: yeah
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Joe: the gantry oh my gosh hit the most beautiful looking hot dog and chips right before the game which absolutely like I forgot to bring my card and I was tempted to get 1 I got a great on the way there but it smelled divine And he just tucked into it as he was starting the match. And I was looking at it, he caught me looking at it and he was like, he just gave me a thumbs up. And I was like, that looked like 1 of the loveliest, he just was loving it. He was just stood
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Joe: up in the camera just eating it. I was like, you're in heaven right now. You're getting paid to film when you're just eating popcorn and chips. I was like, what a job. But I was like, you're also going to have to analyze this and get through it. So I said, you deserve it, mate. Yeah, we don't
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Sutton Podcast: talk about John Davis's food taste, because he was the 1 that had that awful breakfast ahead of Wembley. He was in the hotel, and he had sausage, strawberries. Just randomly. He literally went up to the buffet and he panicked, I think he said, he just started picking stuff up and he didn't know what he was doing. But my funny was, I was, after the event we were talking to Ashleigh in the bar and I was just chatting to him about different things and then Matthew You weren't there for that Harry Renson come over and said oh
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Sutton Podcast: Ash This 1 wants to talk to you about your miss against Birmingham and he just went he's just said that and all because I was saying to him are you over it yet I said you do realise in 30 years you've got to come back to visit and someone's going to mention your miss against Birmingham nothing else you ever do at the club everyone's going to be like you missed that chance so yeah players getting the fact that they're just going to get grief even in years to come. That made me laugh.
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Joe: So Halifax,
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Sutton Podcast: the interview with Sammy is going to come in here now. And now we come to the free Q preview and I'm delighted to be joined by Sammy who has been very patient with me because this is the second time we've done this and we're doing this ahead of the weekend around the matches so if we've both had brilliant victories and we don't refer to it, don't worry about that. It's just the way it's gone. And Sammy, Thank you for joining us. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and your supporting history of Halifax?
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Sammy: Absolutely, yes. So I'm from Halifax, born and raised, and I've pretty much been following Halifax since I was a baby. My dad took me to my first game when I was less than a year old, so it's pretty much been a big part of my life since I was born. My dad is also the club historian. He's written a few books about the history of the club, so it's pretty much in the DNA. There was no getting out of it really for me. But I think I took more of a keen active interest in the sort
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Sammy: of last 10 years or so, which you know for my sins it's not the prettiest football to watch but it's nice to be involved I guess in a proper sense of community that kind of feel that you get with non-league clubs. So yeah, it has its ups and downs, but yeah, on the whole, I think I enjoy going to watch them.
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Sutton Podcast: And you do a podcast as well, as you were telling me, a solo career as a podcaster.
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Sammy: Yes. So last year, myself and 1 of my old school friends Matthew we decided to set up a podcast because every time we meet up with each other we always go on you know 2 hour 3 hour spiel about Halifax Town and we thought, you know what, why don't we start a podcast? So we started that last season, did it for the whole of the season. We started it this season but Matthew is a very busy bee so it couldn't really put the time into it. So it's just me now pretty much. I've not done much
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Sammy: recording of the podcast recently. It's not as fun kind of just talking, doing a bit of a monologue. But we do have a sub stack as well, which is like a newsletter blog kind of thing where I write much reports, much previews, that kind of thing. So yeah, it's interesting to actually do a bit of the research behind the teams that we're playing rather than just turning up to a game, not really knowing anything about them. And so, yeah, adds a little bit of more fun to it to compensate for the quality of the football.
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Sutton Podcast: And I'm a big supporter of the Her Game 2 movement. Do you get the lovely comments that you're only in it for to meet people or you're just a girl just supporting football because obviously going to watch this level of football is clearly a choice that anyone's going to make just for the likes. Do you get that as well?
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Sammy: Well to be honest we operate in very small circles. I think we've got the substacks got about 27 subscribers. I think I do it more for the enjoyment of it rather than to actually get a big following. So I do have a tote bag which has our logo on it, which I parade around when I go to football games. But yeah, it's a very small, humble project, I would say.
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Sutton Podcast: We'll get more, don't worry. So coming into the season, What were your hopes and expectations for the season? How did that align with the fan base generally with forums and Twitter and whatnot? And how has it gone so far?
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Sammy: So I think last season we We made the playoffs just about. I mean, we took it right to the last game in order to secure that spot. And I think at the start of the season, I didn't expect to get there. I don't think many people did. I think every season we just wanna stay up. We just don't wanna be in the delegation battle. We never expect really to finish top of the league or even in the playoffs really. Like we're very sort of middle of the road, I'd say. But the fact that we actually managed
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Sammy: to secure a playoff spot last season, we had a lot of issues with our pitch towards the back end of the season. We had to go and play a lot of home games on neutral ground because our pitch was just destroyed and that meant that we were playing a load of fixtures in the space of like a fortnight. I think we were playing once every 2, 3 days for a fortnight, which was like quite intense really. So the fact that we got that playoff spot secured was a miracle really. We're short lived though because Solihull Moors
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Sammy: did a number on us unfortunately. But Yeah, I think that sparked a lot of optimism for this season. And I think people very much are just wanting more of the same, just see if we can get playoff spot. I don't think anyone necessarily expects it. But we know that we're capable of it, especially with a lot of the challenges that we face. So yeah, I think how things are going so far, I mean, we're in a pretty decent spot. I think we're eighth at the minute, which I don't understand how, because we've not had a great
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Sammy: run of results recently. I mean, we did win our last game, but we had a couple of back-to-back defeats against local rivals which is always disappointing but yeah I think there's potential. I just, there's just something missing and I think once we find whatever is missing, we should hopefully at least finish in the top half of the table and if we're lucky, get a playoff spot again. But who knows, you can't tell what's going to happen in this league.
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Sutton Podcast: No, it's not called the bastard league for no reason. So what do you see at this point of the season, your main strengths and weaknesses, and who is it that we should look out for that you lot are guileless? Get the ball to them. Get the ball to
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Sammy: them. To be honest, we don't really have that standout player. About 10 years ago, we had Lee Gregory and that was our main man. But we don't really have, I mean, we just got Billy Waters back on loan who played for us a few seasons ago before going off to Wrexham and then being learned out again. So he's with us till January and he's sort of, I guess, on paper, our main man, but hasn't... He's got a couple of goals, like that's his job, that's what we expect him to do, but he's not quite, I think,
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Sammy: performed to what we expect from him. But in terms of other strengths, I guess, defensively, traditionally, we were last season 1 of the best defenses in the league. This season, we've been a little bit off it with set pieces. We conceded 2 against York in injury time a couple of weeks ago, which were both from set pieces. And it was just very sort of clumsy, disappointing. Don't think I'm over it, to be honest. But, you know, we never concede a lot of goals. Like we always make up for it at the other end. We never have
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Sammy: a massive like goal deficit. So I guess we're pretty good at keeping things pretty evenly matched. We never really get hammered, although we did get hammered last night against Middlesbrough under 21s in the National League Cup, but I think that's probably because it's a National League Cup and we don't really care about it. So yeah, I don't know, it's hard to say at this point what our strengths are because what I would expect the strengths to be from last season, we're just kind of a bit shy of it, but we've not really had any disasters like
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Sammy: we're not a team that you know you're gonna put 7 goals past like you might score a couple but we'll probably get 1 at the other end so you know it it's not you know an easy 3 points I don't think the teams who play against us
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Sutton Podcast: I'm not a fan We listen to some more fans we've had a disastrous season I think we're 13 we're banging the middle of the table where we should be but How do you see Something much going. I mean, I don't have you researched us yet for your sub stack. But how do you see the game going? What do you think could be the key battles?
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Sammy: To be honest, I haven't really delved into certain, unfortunately, because I've not, it's not on my radar yet, we've got Yoruba before then. But, you know, I go into every game with the same mindset, like I never think this is a guaranteed 3 points because we beat Barnet the first game of the season, who are 1 of the favorites, and then we're losing to, like, I don't know, Braintree, who were pretty low down. So it's like, you know, what can you predict? It's just impossible. You just don't know what's going to happen. But, you know, I
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Sammy: feel like it will just be very much much of the same as what as what we've seen so far. I think it will be an even contest, I'd say. We're at home, which I guess we have that advantage. So yeah I think I can't see us being outright favorites but I also can imagine that you guys will probably give us a game but I don't know that's That's all I can say at this point. Perfect.
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Sutton Podcast: Well, you said it's impossible to make a prediction. See if you can guess what my next question is going to be.
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Sammy: Well, it'll probably be wrong. So when I do my match previews on the sub stack, I do a prediction and I think I've been right once all season so far, so I don't know. I think it will really depend on how we do on Saturday against Yoaville because momentum, things like that, contribute to your form and things, but we're off the back of a league win, we'll pretend that that National League Cup game didn't happen. I will go for, I'll go for 1-0 Halifax, I just, I feel like we're on to something. I feel like we're
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Sammy: going to beat Yobel, we're going to beat you, we're going to beat everyone. And yeah, I'm manifesting.
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Sutton Podcast: That's right. Just on the predictions being wrong, I deal with Prediction League and I was picking 2-1 for about 50 times and I was wrong, I think, 60 times in a row. So don't worry too much, no one's going to put much store on what predictions we've put here. Thank you so much for squeezing me in. And, thank you for all your insights as well. And anyone who's going to Halifax, find Sammy's dad as well. He can talk you to all about the history of Halifax.
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Sammy: Yeah, he will happily do that.
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Sutton Podcast: Excellent. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye bye. And yet another child giving good analysis. She had lots to say about Halifax. I mean hers is a slightly different story. Her dad is the club historian and she kind of basically was, had to go there from when she was a baby. So she kind of didn't really have an awful lot of choice in the matter of her falling in love with them. But yeah, she's kind of said again, they had a late run to the playoffs last year, or towards the playoffs, and it's kind of not
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Sutton Podcast: quite happened again this year, but they're still doing well. But their fans are very much of the opinion of, we might make the playoffs, we might not, who knows, but as long as we're not gonna get relegated we don't care that sounds good that sounds lovely but what do you think and assuming the freeze doesn't knock it off and assuming fans remember to bring cash so they can actually get in and buy stuff in the ground. What do you think is going to happen?
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Joe: Is it
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Sutton Podcast: only cash? It's only cash. Very important everyone remembers that. It's cash only. Wow. Yes. Yes. But what do you think? How do you see the game going? And what do you reckon?
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Joe: Well, they're not far off us, the seventh. So, yeah, if it doesn't get called off, it could be a good game. I don't think we'll change much. I don't know why. I'm going to say this now because I really shouldn't admit that I don't know this I can't remember who played in midfield for us yesterday oh it's Barbrook that's why sorry no no no, I couldn't remember playing alongside Sij and I was like, oh, hang on, I really can't remember this, but it's fine. The guy
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Sutton Podcast: in the squad, yeah. No,
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Joe: no, no, I just forgot. Okay, I think we could, isn't this all going to be back next weekend?
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Sutton Podcast: I think so. We'd be
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Joe: surprised if we could see him, just because I know that Halifax I think is slightly an older team. Just didn't have to navigate.
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Sutton Podcast: Well everyone's an older team than us. Yeah true we are.
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Joe: I think his pace could come in handy, not saying Jack Wadham doesn't, but maybe. But I think just sticking to our guns, we're better away from home. So they're playing blue, so we'll play yellow. I'm just trying to think. I really want to see the purple kit. I'm missing it. I don't know what. I feel like it's going to be another commemorative occasion. Aubergine kit. Sorry. Aubergine kit. No, they should get it out for Christmas. Oh yeah. Barn it away.
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Sutton Podcast: No, no, no. Order shop.
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Joe: New Year's Day. Order shop, yeah. Yeah, 2025, the year of the purple. And then Steve Morrison wears a full purple suit.
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Sutton Podcast: A coat, a full purple.
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Joe: Yeah, exactly. There you
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Sutton Podcast: go, there you go. We've got it sorted.
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Joe: I think it'll be a good game. I think, I can't, it's so hard to predict.
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Sutton Podcast: You've got to predict. Like how
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Joe: it will turn up because Rochdale, we want the worst, they want the better team, we want the worst, it's kind of even, we could be excellent, we could be... It's really hard to predict, It's not like last season where we're going to games.
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Sutton Podcast: I'm going to say we're going to have, I'd say we're probably going to have an unchanged side. There's not a lot you can really say. Actually, I'm going to replace that 1. Because as you said, everyone contributed. So unless there's an injury or something, I would imagine it's going to be.
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Joe: The only player who I might think might come out it might be Well what come in would be Hayden Muller because he was very good at the start of the season and I'm just thinking maybe Kirk for Muller, I don't know. I didn't say Kirk was bad yesterday, I don't think he was.
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Sutton Podcast: I think he'd be good.
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Joe: I don't know, I just think Hayden Muller was very good at the start. He was good and I think Steve Trosson, I think he worked well with French. So he might come in. But then again, about 3 of Harry Ransom, McCauley, and Muller for the game at Solihull was not too shabby at all. So you know, you might just rest it and give the other 2 a side.
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Sutton Podcast: Yeah, exactly. But go on, let me see if you can keep hold of your 45th out of 45 spot. What's the scoreline for you? Come on.
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Joe: So you're going to say 2-1.
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Sutton Podcast: No, I'm not. I've stopped that now. I did it last week.
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Joe: You've stopped that now?
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Sutton Podcast: No, I've not done it for a good few weeks now. Apart from
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Joe: the 1
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Sutton Podcast: I genuinely thought would be.
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Joe: 2, what, 2, 1 to Sutton?
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Sutton Podcast: You're gonna have 2, 1, Sutton. I was gonna have 3131,
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Joe: Sutton. 3, 1, Sutton. You're being optimistic today. Absolutely. It's the youthful optimism that carried me through.
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Sutton Podcast: Absolutely, right,
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Joe: well. You've got your fire
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Sutton Podcast: in or something. Exactly, He's pumped me up. He's going to work every Monday. Come on, John.
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Joe: Yeah, just wake it up. You're alarm clock. Just a video of
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Sutton Podcast: John Meany's talking to you. Right, so let's know. Not let me know. Just join in the prediction lead. There's a little form you can fill in to let me know what you think. I didn't do the league table yet because I've been busy and I forgot, so I will do the league table later on. But we're going to wrap up this episode. Thank you Joe, we've done remarkably well for just 2 of us. As always appreciate your attention and feedback. Get involved with the No Mean No New segment. What's the best piece of advice you've ever
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Sutton Podcast: received or given as a football fan? Follow, like and share this episode, something podcasts, social medias, subscribe, give me the thumbs up on YouTube. We are back on Sunday, probably after the Halifax victory, and we will have the thoughts of Jenny and Rory and as always thank you to Lucky Sarjean, thank you to today's panel of Joe and thanks to the listeners. I hope you've enjoyed this episode of Southern Podcast, take care and we'll catch up soon. Bye bye. See you later.
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